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[ofpheritup]

Okay I thought I was done with this topic but I guess not.

HELLO CATHOLIC FANATIC....loved what you said.

Now to the comment about "being charitable." CHARITABLE, SCMARITABLE

GO TELL THE COMPANIES THAT ARE SELLING THIS ???

That I want to know what is so CHARITABLE about giving men the impression that they are not good enough. What is so CHARITABLE about putting these men in a position where they doubt who they are.
What is so CHARITABLE about these companies only motivation being to make a buck.

There is nothing CHARITABLE about allowing someone to continue in their sin because you don't want to hurt their feelings. Charity sometimes means that we are going to have to correct each other.

When i am wrong I EXPECT AND DEMAND my friends tell me the truth. THAT IS THE TRUE ESSENCE OF CHARITY.


Whoops I almost forgot. I am going to tell the truth SIZE DOES MATTER TO ME. What matters to me is the size of your heart.

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[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 11:58 PM']Holy Church teaches the Truth that penis enlargement is a mortal sin.
The fact that penis enlargement is a mortal sin is not my opinions; this is the teaching of Holy Church, the Defender of Truth. I do not speak on my own, but It is the Church that speaks. When you question me, you question the Church. If you knew the Church, you would know what I speak is the Truth. But as it is, you do not know the Church or else you would know my words are true.
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Oh great and holy one, do enlight us poor, poor beggers. For we are so ignorant oh enlightened one. Just where doth thou find such Church teachings that we may see and believe.

[cmotherofpirl]

[Paladin D]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jul 16 2005, 08:49 AM']Oh great and holy one, do enlight us poor, poor beggers. For we are so ignorant oh enlightened one. Just where doth thou find such Church teachings that we may see and believe. 
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What's a pope?

[IcePrincessKRS]

[quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 15 2005, 08:27 PM']Hello.. name's Catholic Fanatic.

Sorry to make this my first impression. But don't make me break out the writings of the magisterium!
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Welcome CF. Please do "bring out the big guns," we're all very curious to see where the Church has condemned penis enlargement. I think we all agree that is [i]can be[/i] sinful for reasons of vanity, scandal, and sexual indiscretions, however, you claim to have proof from the writings of the magisterium so I think you really should post it. People have actually been asking for just such information, so please do post it and cite your sources.

[Catholic Fanatic]

[quote]SECTION ONE
MAN'S VOCATION LIFE IN THE SPIRIT
CHAPTER ONE
THE DIGNITY OF THE HUMAN PERSON
1700 The dignity of the human person is rooted in his creation in the image and likeness of God (article 1); it is fulfilled in his vocation to divine beatitude (article 2). It is essential to a human being freely to direct himself to this fulfillment (article 3). By his deliberate actions (article 4), the human person does, or does not, conform to the good promised by God and attested by moral conscience (article 5). Human beings make their own contribution to their interior growth; they make their whole sentient and spiritual lives into means of this growth (article 6). With the help of grace they grow in virtue (article 7), avoid sin, and if they sin they entrust themselves as did the prodigal son1 to the mercy of our Father in heaven (article 8). In this way they attain to the perfection of charity[/quote]

Notice the biblical reference to the image and likeness of God, which is another citation.

These are all general arguments in defense of the sanctity of the human body. I can break out writings from the ordinary and universal magisterium if you would like and can wait a bit.


[quote]As I've said, my main issue with the pills is the fact that they're a lie and scam. However, your statement raises a question. You imply that taking the pills would be wrong if they worked because they "alter the body." By this logic, would eating certain diets, taking supplements, and exercising for the purpose of gaining muscle, losing weight, or toning one's body also be mortal sins? After all, these would "alter our bodies," too. As I've said, my main issue with the pills is the fact that they're a lie and scam. However, your statement raises a question. You imply that taking the pills would be wrong if they worked because they "alter the body." By this logic, would eating certain diets, taking supplements, and exercising for the purpose of gaining muscle, losing weight, or toning one's body also be mortal sins? After all, these would "alter our bodies," too. [/quote]
I have told you the ways of the Church, but you persist in your blindness. If I had not told you, you would be blind. If you were blind, you would have no sin; but you continue to say you see. Therefore your sin remains.


[quote]Oh great and holy one, do enlight us poor, poor beggers. For we are so ignorant oh enlightened one. Just where doth thou find such Church teachings that we may see and believe.  [/quote]
If I spoke on my own behalf, my words would mean nothing. But it is the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church who speaks through me. Be not unbelieving, but believe.

[IcePrincessKRS]

CF, we have brought up the "created in His image and likeness" argument already, Is that the only "proof" you have? You can't tell someone they are sinning when you don't even know what they are doing. Socrates isn't using those ridiculous pills, he just said the reasons why he sees it could be wrong or sinful. If you have better reasons than he does than instead of saying "you're sinning because you don't listen to me" maybe you should say "its a sin because of X Y and Z" and SHOW him why its sinful.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 16 2005, 11:37 AM']Notice the biblical reference to the image and likeness of God, which is another citation.

These are all general arguments in defense of the sanctity of the human body. I can break out writings from the ordinary and universal magisterium if you would like and can wait a bit.
I have told you the ways of the Church, but you persist in your blindness. If I had not told you, you would be blind. If you were blind, you would have no sin; but you continue to say you see. Therefore your sin remains.
If I spoke on my own behalf, my words would mean nothing. But it is the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church who speaks through me. Be not unbelieving, but believe.
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Last I checked God Almighty does not reply on message boards,
the Holy Father isn't a Phatmass member [yet ]
so you obviously do not speak for the Catholic Church.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but that NOT mean they coincide with the Magisterium.
Come up a specific document concerning this, and remember judgement of hearts resides with [b][i]GOD[/i][/b]

[Paladin D]

[b]Catholic Fanatic[/b],

Most of us want to be obediant to the Holy Catholic Church, but one must becareful on how to interpret some of it's teachings. Catholics can misinterpret Church teaching, just as much as we can misinterpret Sacred Scripture, that's why it's safer to cite a more direct source if possible.

We're not here to attack you, we're all faithful Catholics. We have to try our best to be humble towards one another.

[Norseman82]

[quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 16 2005, 10:37 AM']I have told you the ways of the Church, but you persist in your blindness. If I had not told you, you would be blind. If you were blind, you would have no sin; but you continue to say you see. Therefore your sin remains.
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OK, I have to call you out on this one. Your only substantive answer was a general one regarding the "image and likeness of God" and altering one's body. The question posed regarding the difference between this issue and other forms of body altering was legitimate. To pose such a bullying and demeaning response makes me wonder whether you actually have official backup for your position.

[quote name='Catholic Fanatic' date='Jul 16 2005, 10:37 AM']I can break out writings from the ordinary and universal magisterium if you would like and can wait a bit.
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I'm willing to wait for it. But until you produce it, can the bullying.

Also, if you haven't done so already, please either fill out your profile or tell us a little about yourself in the "Introduce yourself" thread. It helps to know your educational and experience level.

[Jaime]

Perhaps Catholic Fanatic is going to quote the oft overlooked papal encyclical

"Penis et Autus"

[infinitelord1]

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[homeschoolmom]

stop it!

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='Jul 16 2005, 02:53 PM']Perhaps Catholic Fanatic is going to quote the oft overlooked papal encyclical

"Penis et  Autus"
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ROFLOLPIMP!!!!!!!!!!!

That is SOOO wrong.

[reelguy227]

[quote name='ardillacid' date='Jul 16 2005, 01:32 AM']
The fact that penis enlargement is a mortal sin is not my opinions; this is the teaching of Holy Church, the Defender of Truth. I do not speak on my own, but It is the Church that speaks. When you question me, you question the Church. If you knew the Church, you would know what I speak is the Truth. But as it is, you do not know the Church or else you would know my words are true.
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Hey I heard that certain vegetables have the same effect on men as viagra, so should we stay away?
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Which vegebetables would those be exactly ,so we can all stay away from them ? lol