MIKolbe Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 you say the sexiest things, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie12 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 wow! I totally didn't realize how old this post was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Adrestia' timestamp='1332104289' post='2403306'] Or you could join the crowd & mock Nihil [/quote] Always a solid option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Annie12' timestamp='1332092928' post='2403031'] I am one at my church and did it today! Hardly anyone receives the precious blood at my church I don't know why, Christ wants to give abundant graces to all his people. I don't think germs are worth worrying over when you are talking about revive Christ himself. I dunno just a thought! HE JUST LOVES US SO MUCH! [/quote]What if it gives me heartburn? (tht seriously is a consideration for me t times, though more often it's that my hands are full with Charlotte) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie12 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Archaeology cat' timestamp='1332113009' post='2403394'] What if it gives me heartburn? (tht seriously is a consideration for me t times, though more often it's that my hands are full with Charlotte) [/quote] That's completely fine I would assume. One of my friends can not consume the precious blood because it causes her to faint. So, if they are healthy people shouldn't be weary of God's grace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Annie12' timestamp='1332092928' post='2403031'] I am one at my church and did it today! Hardly anyone receives the precious blood at my church I don't know why, Christ wants to give abundant graces to all his people. I don't think germs are worth worrying over when you are talking about revive Christ himself. I dunno just a thought! HE JUST LOVES US SO MUCH! [/quote] I never receive the Blood*. I think in my entire life I have perhaps twice. I'm not missing out or anything, so I don't give it a second thought. *To be clear, the Eucharist under the accident of wine, or whatever precise terminology you want to use. I'm running on not nearly enough sleep. Edited March 18, 2012 by Nihil Obstat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Annie12' timestamp='1332113363' post='2403398'] That's completely fine I would assume. One of my friends can not consume the precious blood because it causes her to faint. So, if they are healthy people shouldn't be weary of God's grace! [/quote] it's not necessary to consume the Eucharist in the species of wine though. I just say that because sometimes I weary of Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist trying to bless my children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 it is not an obligation to receive the Sacred Blood. when you receive only the Host, you receive the Body Blood Soul and Divinity of Jesus in his entirety, there is nothing lacking if you do not receive the Blood....I never do, and it has nothing to do with fear of germs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie12 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 oh. okay. well, I just am talking about all the graces you get. I know that it's not required. and I totally agree with all of you. If I came off weird sounding I apologize! I mean you get more graces when you consume the precious blood in addition to the body of Christ. Right? I think of it as a special think that God appreciates. Sort of like giving someone a gift or something. I dunno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Annie12' timestamp='1332123684' post='2403567'] oh. okay. well, I just am talking about all the graces you get. I know that it's not required. and I totally agree with all of you. If I came off weird sounding I apologize! [b]I mean you get more graces when you consume the precious blood in addition to the body of Christ. Right?[/b] I think of it as a special think that God appreciates. Sort of like giving someone a gift or something. I dunno? [/quote] Nope. What you receive is the same regardless of which specie you receive under. Both the wine and the bread become the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ, so there's no deficiency from receiving only one or the other. Edited March 19, 2012 by Nihil Obstat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) [quote] [center][size=4]The Council of Trent[/size][/center] [center][size=4]SESSION THE THIRTEENTH,[/size][/center] [center][size=4]Being the third under the Sovereign Pontiff, Julius III., celebrated on the eleventh day[/size][/center] [center][size=4]of October, MDLI.[/size][/center] [center][size=4]DECREE CONCERNING THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE[/size][/center] [center][size=4]EUCHARIST[/size][/center] [center][size=4].........[/size][/center] [center][size=4]CHAPTER VIII.[/size][/center] [center][size=4].......[/size][/center] [center][size=4]ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST[/size][/center] [size=4]CANON III.-If any one denieth, that, in the venerable sacrament of the Eucharist, the whole Christ is contained under each [Page 83] species, and under every part of each species, when separated; let him be anathema.[/size] [/quote] Edited March 19, 2012 by eagle_eye222001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 the reason both species are encouraged these days is that it expresses the symbol of the Body and Blood more fully; one does not receive less grace receiving under only one species nor more grace receiving under both. it's the same amount of grace, just that the person who receives under both species is essentially looking at a larger painting of the Eucharist while they're receiving the grace--think of the symbol of the species as if it were a painting that you are gazing at. some people are more edified by smaller and simpler paintings and symbols while others are more edified by larger and more complex paintings and symbols. so it is with receiving under one or two species--it is like a large painting and a smaller painting, two species and one species, the symbol of bread and wine or the symbol of bread, so long as we know that Christ is not divided--the fullness of His whole Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity is present in even one tiny morsel of the host, even one tiny drop of the precious blood, so that a single crumb or a single drop would be enough to give you all the grace you would ever need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie12 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1332123986' post='2403573'] Nope. What you receive is the same regardless of which specie you receive under. Both the wine and the bread become the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ, so there's no deficiency from receiving only one or the other. [/quote] So, then what is the point of receiving both? I realize that there is no difference in the identity but I'm talking about graces. If you go to mass twice in one day for example, you get more graces from receiving jesus twice than just once. its just logic. just like if you do any sacrament more than just once you get graces for every time you participate in that sacrament. That is my reasoning for saying to receive the precious blood in addition to the body of Christ. I see that as an opportunity for graces. otherwise I don't see why christ would give two opportunities to receive him. You become holy through the graces that God gives you and Christ is giving graces through himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 read Al's post, it's a pretty good sum-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie12 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 [quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1332151086' post='2403797'] the reason both species are encouraged these days is that it expresses the symbol of the Body and Blood more fully; one does not receive less grace receiving under only one species nor more grace receiving under both. it's the same amount of grace, just that the person who receives under both species is essentially looking at a larger painting of the Eucharist while they're receiving the grace--think of the symbol of the species as if it were a painting that you are gazing at. some people are more edified by smaller and simpler paintings and symbols while others are more edified by larger and more complex paintings and symbols. so it is with receiving under one or two species--it is like a large painting and a smaller painting, two species and one species, the symbol of bread and wine or the symbol of bread, so long as we know that Christ is not divided--the fullness of His whole Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity is present in even one tiny morsel of the host, even one tiny drop of the precious blood, so that a single crumb or a single drop would be enough to give you all the grace you would ever need. [/quote] ok! I was having a huge brain blank! lol! you post reminded me of what I already knew/ forgot! Thanks! That makes me come to the question, if its just a matter of bigger picture why at my church do we allays have two cups of the precious blood which almost never is consumed by the mass participants even though it's available? I feel like many times the extraordinary ministers of the eucharist end up consuming the rest which is basically all of it minus 2-4 sips. I feel like we are putting Jesus in harms way by doing this. or maybe just disrespectful? Maybe I'm wrong again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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