dairygirl4u2c Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 (edited) 1 Corinthians 11:5 [quote]Every woman that prays or prophesizes with her head uncovered dishonours her head: for that is as if she were shaven. [/quote] note, not an old testament rule.. explain what need's explainin'... spanx why doesn't anyone wear covers? Edited July 9, 2005 by dairygirl4u2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 St. Paul does go on to say that each woman should choose for herself what she thinks is proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 not in so many words... how does he say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 there are a few ways people explain this away, but I cannot see St. Paul making the choice the woman's as one really? where does St. Paul do that? is it your interpretation of the obscure verse 10? "And for that reason the woman ought to have authority over her head, for the angels' sake." or are you trying to use verse 13 "Jude for yourselves; is it fitting that a woman should offer prayer to God unveiled?" when clearly he used that question rhetorically and answers a resounding "no" with the next verses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I thought it was meant that a womens 'glory' is her hair and that she should cover her head by having long hair...maybe I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jul 9 2005, 02:23 PM'] not in so many words... how does he say that? [right][snapback]637525[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I was just pointing out that phrase because it makes for a funner discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 he does say not covering your head is just as bad as covering your hair off, he's using an analogy there. my translation uses the word "veil" instead of "cover" which gets across the meaning of what Paul wrote much better, for he was talking about veils [quote]I was just pointing out that phrase because it makes for a funner discussion. [/quote] ... but where does that phrase come from? not from St. Paul... sorry just confused as to what you mean here, he never said that each woman should decide for herself... he said that the church of corrinth should judge for themselves rhetorically to set it up to say "see how obvious it is that women should veil their heads in church!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 1 Corinthians 11:14-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 v a woman brings shame upon her head if she uncovers it to pray or prophesy; she is no better than the woman who has her head shaved [color=red](having your head shaved is thus different from uncovering it) [/color]vi If a woman would go without a veil, why does she not cut her hair short too? If she admits that a woman is disgraced when her hair is cut short or shaved, then let her go veiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c']why doesn't anyone wear covers?[/quote] The discipline of veiling is not required by Church Law, though it is encouraged. In certain countries, Catholic women frequently use veils. Looking at verse 16 in the same chapter of St. Paul's Letter to the Corinithians, I interpreted this to mean that veiling was advice and not a command. [quote name='1 Cor 11:16']But if anyone is inclined to be argumentative, we do not have such a custom, nor do the churches of God.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Whats the point of a woman covering her head anyways ? Im confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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