Margarite Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Honestly everyone, I do feel we should support Vera in this chllenge, but we definately don't want her parents to cut out her access to this forum, do we? I don't think anyone should be judging The parent's behavior, what if they come and see all this hostility towards them and decide that they don't want us influencing their daughter against them in any way? I'm sorry, Vera, I feel for you, but rest assured that you are not incurring any sin, and also your faith will strenghten greatly by this trial. It is because of that that I tell you as a mother that I don't care what the subject is, if I see that anything is influencing my children in a way I don't like, I do whatever it takes to cut that out. My kids are my responsability, I accept that I will be held accountable for their upbringing. Taking into cosideration that God is not blaming Vera for this, quite the contrary, she is to be praised for her faith, please leave the parenting issue to the members of that family and concentrate on Giving Vera advise that doesn't include chastising her parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margarite Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 I just read my post and found it a little bit harsh. I don't want to edit it so that you can see the difference between what I wrote and what I ment. maybe I missunderstood the climate in this thread, but as a parent, I don't think that I would want to see my daughter discussing my parenting with people that don't know anything about me. I apologize if I offended anyone, I only wanted to point out that some of the coments I read were not apropiate (in my opinion) for a minor in respect to the way she is being educated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 ASk St. Germaine Cousin for her prayers. She's one of my favorites! And she had the most important prayer of all -- the Mass. Every day, without fail, she would leave her sheep in God's care and go to Mass. Villagers wondered that the sheep weren't attacked by the wolves in the woods when she left but God's protection never failed her. One day when the rains had swollen the river to flood stage, a villager saw the river part so that she could cross to get to the church in time for Mass. Read a little about her, if you haven't already: http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=52 O' Vera! The heavens are singing the Glory of God because of what you are enduring. Keep up the faith. And know that we are all praying for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Some suggestions: 1) Do you have a bicycle? Maybe you could ride that to mass. 2) If you have some friends from the parish, perhaps you could invite them over sometime and somehow arrange for their parents to drop by to pick them up so that your parents could get to know them and trust them so that you could go to mass under the guise of a "social outing on Sunday morning" (hey, whatever it takes, eh?). If they object to that, I would have to wonder why your parents are so hostile to the Church (because the extent that they would be going through to prevent you from going to mass is at the level of extreme hostility). Or are they isolating you from the outside world in other ways as well?? 3) Save up any money from any part-time jobs you hold so that when you are 18 you will be in a position to move out if he situation is truly intolerable (or at least get your own vehicle, and for that you may not need to wait until 18). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 I just read my post and found it a little bit harsh. I don't want to edit it so that you can see the difference between what I wrote and what I ment. maybe I missunderstood the climate in this thread, but as a parent, I don't think that I would want to see my daughter discussing my parenting with people that don't know anything about me. I apologize if I offended anyone, I only wanted to point out that some of the coments I read were not apropiate (in my opinion) for a minor in respect to the way she is being educated. If you think your kids are not discussing your parenting styles with anybody outside the family think again. Kids talk and compare notes all the times, just like adults do. We are called to judge peoples behavior but not their intentions or their motivations. Big difference. Vera's parents are incurring sin by keeping her from Mass. We had a mom tell the youth group leaders one day that her son could not attend a chastity program, becuase she didn't want him to take the commandments too seriously. She wanted him to have sex before marriage so he wouldn't get married just to have sex. THe Youth Group leader explained that as Catholics we do take what the Church teaches seriously and expect the kids to do so as well, and maybe she should rethink her opinion. She wasn't happy. It isn't our job to keep people happy, but to proclaim the Truth with love. Her son is still in youth group. and will make a fine priest one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 If you think your kids are not discussing your parenting styles with anybody outside the family think again. Kids talk and compare notes all the times, just like adults do. We are called to judge peoples behavior but not their intentions or their motivations. Big difference. Vera's parents are incurring sin by keeping her from Mass. We had a mom tell the youth group leaders one day that her son could not attend a chastity program, becuase she didn't want him to take the commandments too seriously. She wanted him to have sex before marriage so he wouldn't get married just to have sex. THe Youth Group leader explained that as Catholics we do take what the Church teaches seriously and expect the kids to do so as well, and maybe she should rethink her opinion. She wasn't happy. It isn't our job to keep people happy, but to proclaim the Truth with love. Her son is still in youth group. and will make a fine priest one day. I cannot believe the way parents "ration". It makes you want to crack them upside their thick heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeraMaria Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 lol Jake... Yeah, i know st. germaine! she's another sister of mine....i love her...she's soooo kewl!! :D B) B) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margarite Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 If you think your kids are not discussing your parenting styles with anybody outside the family think again. Kids talk and compare notes all the times, just like adults do. We are called to judge peoples behavior but not their intentions or their motivations. Big difference. Vera's parents are incurring sin by keeping her from Mass. We had a mom tell the youth group leaders one day that her son could not attend a chastity program, becuase she didn't want him to take the commandments too seriously. She wanted him to have sex before marriage so he wouldn't get married just to have sex. THe Youth Group leader explained that as Catholics we do take what the Church teaches seriously and expect the kids to do so as well, and maybe she should rethink her opinion. She wasn't happy. It isn't our job to keep people happy, but to proclaim the Truth with love. Her son is still in youth group. and will make a fine priest one day. cmom, I know kids talk and discuss all about thir parents, that was not my point, sorry I didn't make it clear enough. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FX2 Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 hey vera, look on the bright side, one more year and then you can drive yourself to mass! Every day!!!! happy bday! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeraMaria Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 hey vera, look on the bright side, one more year and then you can drive yourself to mass! Every day!!!! happy bday! :D thanks. i like your way of thinking. :D B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 You can also pray for your parents while you wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megrc Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 I know you wnat to go to mass, but you can make a spiritual communion on your own. I know how hard it is not being able to go to mass, but you just have to look at the bright side, 1 more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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