hyperdulia again Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 try getting them to take you to the vigil, i don't go to mass on sunday mornings, usually...i go to bed at 4am.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Michael Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 If you want, throw these Catechism quotes in their faces: CATECHISM: 2217: As long as a child lives at home with his parents, the child should obey his parents in all that they ask of him when it is for his good or that of the family. "Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord." Children should also obey the reasonable directions of their teachers and all to whom their parents have entrusted them. But if a child is convinced in conscience that it would be morally wrong to obey a particular order, he must not do so. As they grow up, children should continue to respect their parents. They should anticipate their wishes, willingly seek their advice, and accept their just admonitions. Obedience toward parents ceases with the emancipation of the children; not so respect, which is always owed to them. This respect has its roots in the fear of God, one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. aaaaand... CATECHISM: 2225: Through the grace of the sacrament of marriage, parents receive the responsibility and privilege of evangelizing their children. Parents should initiate their children at an early age into the mysteries of the faith of which they are the "first heralds" for their children. They should associate them from their tenderest years with the life of the Church. A wholesome family life can foster interior dispositions that are a genuine preparation for a living faith and remain a support for it throughout one's life. 2226: Education in the faith by the parents should begin in the child's earliest years. This already happens when family members help one another to grow in faith by the witness of a Christian life in keeping with the Gospel. Family catechesis precedes, accompanies, and enriches other forms of instruction in the faith. Parents have the mission of teaching their children to pray and to discover their vocation as children of God. The parish is the Eucharistic community and the heart of the liturgical life of Christian families; it is a privileged place for the catechesis of children and parents. 2227: Children in turn contribute to the growth in holiness of their parents. Each and everyone should be generous and tireless in forgiving one another for offenses, quarrels, injustices, and neglect. Mutual affection suggests this. The charity of Christ demands it. 2228: Parents' respect and affection are expressed by the care and attention they devote to bringing up their young children and providing for their physical and spiritual needs. As the children grow up, the same respect and devotion lead parents to educate them in the right use of their reason and freedom. I wonder if it would be possible to have a Eucharistic Minister meet you at a friend's house so you can receive Communion. Maybe you should ask the priest if this is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 VERA, I'm praying for you!!!!!!!! and I prayed at NCYC for ya too little sista!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Gus Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 You are being martyred. Offer it up, and God will reward you for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Vera, remember that saint you posted who received her first communion from an Angel . . . pray harder! and then Pray some more! And desire it very very hard! I'm not saying that an angel will show up, but won't it be fun hoping that they will!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Maybe if it was someone from the Parish youth group who offered to take you your parents might let you go? Till then I would take BLAZEr's advice - if it worked for St. Stanislaus it might also work for you too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 O Vera. I am ashamed for the petty problems I complain about. Yes, foundsheep said it best... God love you, and reward you. I pray Philomena rectify this situation asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marielapin Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 I would come pick you up and take you to Mass if you lived near me. (don't you live in FL somewhere - I'm in Fort Walton) I'm really sorry, Vera. We love you and we are praying for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 It's too bad the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights can't be called out on parents like that. And as for honoring one's father and mother, we're to do that, but NOT if they tell us to do something immoral. Of course, because Vera has no other way to go to Mass, she doesn't sin by missing if her parents refuse to take her. But it's highly immoral of them to forbid you from going. I'd recommend making some good friends at the parish and have them drive you when your parents won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 As religiously fanatical as it may sound, you should tell your parents that they are MAKING you sin mortally by not taking you to mass (and since that is no fault of your own the MORTAL sin is inDouche theirs). I will pray hard for you. And we should also make reperation for your parents. The Lord will bless you BIG TIME Vera. Don't you worry one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTNgurl Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 i'll pray for you too...luckly for me, my church, in which i started to go regularly now,(thank you guys...joining phatmass inspired me to go to church), is only a walking distance for me. although i go by myself, (my family isnt religious either) i try not to miss a sunday. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Vera you are not incurrring a sin, how ever your parents are. Make a spiritual Communion daily while you try to figure out what other arrangements can be made for yourself. Put your parents on the prayer list so we may all pray the God will enlighten them. You can always call your parish and ask if an EEM can bring you Communion when they do sick rounds. Maybe that will shame your parents into taking you to Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeraMaria Posted November 18, 2003 Author Share Posted November 18, 2003 Thanks everyone. I just felt so bad yesterday. I was so angry, and so frustrated that i was sinning by not going to Mass, but there was just NO WAY i could get there, and that's the most horrible, helpless feeling in the world. I guess i'm accostumed that where there's a will, there's a way. And that was not true yesterday. So after posting at phatmass, letting my anger go, cooling down and praying, I went and apologized to my parents for loosing my temper. they go "Good, vera, we're glad you've come yo your senses." and my mom, feeling very generous, says "don't worry....we'll go on christmas...." That's ewnough to send me flying again. :ph34r: I am really frustrated, and i'm sorry if i am repaeting the same thing over and over again. I know i come to the phorum a lot and complain and complain and complain, and i know people have bigger, more serious problems than this. But this is one place where i can let my frustration out. Sorry if it's annoying. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 It's alright! I found that truly touching. How could you NOT go to mass?! And worse, to have your parents, the cornerstones of your life to take such an important aspect of worship and life from you. I can't even imagine... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeraMaria Posted November 18, 2003 Author Share Posted November 18, 2003 It's alright! I found that truly touching. How could you NOT go to mass?! And worse, to have your parents, the cornerstones of your life to take such an important aspect of worship and life from you. I can't even imagine... i pray for them. can't do much more... i should try to help by example. did a great job of that yesterday, didn't i.... :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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