Piccoli Fiori JMJ Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Pope presents summary of catechism, urges memorizing Latin prayers VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Presenting the new "Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church," Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholics around the world to memorize the most common Catholic prayers in Latin. Learning the prayers in Latin as well as in one's own language "will help Christian faithful of different languages pray together, especially when they gather for special circumstances," the pope said June 28 as he distributed the Italian version of the compendium, which included an appendix with the Latin texts of many traditional prayers, including the Sign of the Cross, the Gloria, the Hail Mary and Come, Holy Spirit. The pope said he hoped the compendium, a 200-page synthesis of the voluminous 1992 catechism, would give Catholics and non-Catholics easy access to the basic and essential tenets of the Catholic faith. [url="http://www.catholicnews.com/data/briefs/cns/20050628.htm#head6"]http://www.catholicnews.com/data/briefs/cn...50628.htm#head6[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 when I read this I thought...help people pray together? Why, could he be hinting that he is laying the groundwork for the institution of more Latin in the Mass so that worldwide we can be united?????? Baby steps, baby steps. who knows, in ten years we could be saying a substantial part of the Mass in Latin. Agnus Dei, Pater Noster, Ave Maria... WOW. I'm like totally ignorant of any Latin. I shall blame my religious education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 [quote]steps should be taken so that the faithful may also be able to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass which pertain to them. --Second Vatican Council, "Sacrosanctum Concilium"[/quote] Papa Ratzi is just following the mandate of an Ecumenical Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 I think all the of the parts of mass where it requires the congregation to participate should be in Latin. It's a testament to the universality of the church. No matter where you attend mass anywhere in the world you'll be able to follow along, no matter the language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 [quote name='dUSt' date='Jul 4 2005, 04:37 PM']I think all the of the parts of mass where it requires the congregation to participate should be in Latin. It's a testament to the universality of the church. No matter where you attend mass anywhere in the world you'll be able to follow along, no matter the language. [right][snapback]631579[/snapback][/right] [/quote] indubitably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
let_go_let_God Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Thank God, *Now I just need to enroll in the Latin Courses at college* My mom has been "humbly requesting" that the mass parts in our parish should be in Latin (at least for "major" masses ie Christmas Holy Tridium ect) maybe now we can go back to Latin mass parts. Fond memories God bless- LGLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccoli Fiori JMJ Posted July 4, 2005 Author Share Posted July 4, 2005 There is a parish by my school that is awesome... during the lenten season, they sang most of their songs and stuff (like the sanctus and the angnus dei) in latin... I felt ashamed I didn't know most of hte words, but I was so happy to actually hear it in a Mass that wasn't at a Monastery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 [quote] My mom has been "humbly requesting" that the mass parts in our parish should be in Latin (at least for "major" masses ie Christmas Holy Tridium ect) maybe now we can go back to Latin mass parts.[/quote] Tell her to invoke the Spirit of Vatican II, and then quote Sacrosanctum Concilium. They'll love that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 glad to see all the time I took to learn those didn't go to waste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
let_go_let_God Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Jul 4 2005, 03:50 PM']Tell her to invoke the Spirit of Vatican II, and then quote Sacrosanctum Concilium. They'll love that! [right][snapback]631594[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Sacrosanctum Concilium? I don't know much Latin but my guess is that it has to do with words of the spirit? Translation on aisle 4 please. God bless- LGLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 that's the document from Vatican II that says Latin should be retained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cam42 Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 [quote name='FutureNunJMJ' date='Jul 4 2005, 04:12 PM']Pope presents summary of catechism, urges memorizing Latin prayers VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Presenting the new "Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church," Pope Benedict XVI urged Catholics around the world to memorize the most common Catholic prayers in Latin. Learning the prayers in Latin as well as in one's own language "will help Christian faithful of different languages pray together, especially when they gather for special circumstances," the pope said June 28 as he distributed the Italian version of the compendium, which included an appendix with the Latin texts of many traditional prayers, including the Sign of the Cross, the Gloria, the Hail Mary and Come, Holy Spirit. The pope said he hoped the compendium, a 200-page synthesis of the voluminous 1992 catechism, would give Catholics and non-Catholics easy access to the basic and essential tenets of the Catholic faith. [url="http://www.catholicnews.com/data/briefs/cns/20050628.htm#head6"]http://www.catholicnews.com/data/briefs/cn...50628.htm#head6[/url] [right][snapback]631570[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Est tempus maximum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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argent_paladin Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 You don't need to enroll in a latin course to memorize it. Remember that a c followed by an e, i or ae (which sounds like 'ay') sounds like 'ch' and a 'gnu' like 'nyu' and the initial 'h' is silent. Also the 'ti' sounds like 'tsi' Then you can pray with everyone at WYD. Here's a start: # The Our Father Pater Noster Pater Noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur nomen tuum, adveniat regnum tuum, fiat voluntas tua sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra, sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris, et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen. # The Hail Mary Ave Maria Ave Maria, Gratia plena, Dominus tecum, benedicta tu in mulieribus et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Jesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen. # The Glory be ... Gloria Patria Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto, sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper, et in saecula saeculorum. Amen. # The Sign of the Cross In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. Come, Holy Spirit Veni, Sancte Spiritus, reple tuorum corda fidelium, et tui amoris in eis accende. V. Emitte Spiritum tuum et creabuntur. R. Et renovabis faciem terrae. Oremus Deus, qui corda fidelium Sancti Spiritus illustratione docuisti. Da nobis in eodem Spiritu recta sapere, et de eius semper consolatione gaudere. Per Christum Dominum nostrum. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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