dairygirl4u2c Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 There's also a jurisdictional question that you can elaborate on in a post. Like you think it should be in your local community, but not everywhere or everywhere too etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avemaria40 Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 i say no b/c even though it is wrong, God gave us all free will and we have to be encouraged to make our own choices. It's not like rape, murder, abortion, or anything like that where u r physically harming another person. Also, even though i believe it is wrong and a mortal sin, i don't believe we can police ppl's bedrooms. I'm sorry but that's the way i feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted July 2, 2005 Author Share Posted July 2, 2005 Thank you for your response Ave. I understand how fornication and gay marriages are different in society and law and not analogous. But I'd like for you to explain this. How do you distinquish between allowing fornication and not allowing gay marriage? (I assume you're against gay marriage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 Even legally already there is a difference between sodomy and fornication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted July 2, 2005 Author Share Posted July 2, 2005 (edited) First, sodomy and gay marriage are not the same in this thread. Gay marriage deals with marriage, an act which is recognized by society in the law. (and which is something heterosexuals have). Sodomy does not deal with marriage. Sodomy is a single act. Sodomy does occur in gay marriage, but as I've shown, they do not encompass marriage so are not the same for the purposes of this discussion. If you're saying that because gay marriages encompasses sodomy, you'd have to explain more, plus show what should be the case for those gays who are not sexual. I already admitted that fornication and gay marriage are different, and I asked for an explanation for how. Not for you to repeat what I said and use a different word to evoke people's emotions. (which based on the depth of your response appears to be what you're doing) Even if sodomy and gay marriage were the same, I did not ask for you to repeat what I said simply to evoke people's emotions. Edited July 2, 2005 by dairygirl4u2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avemaria40 Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 about gay marriage, i also think this is wrong but like fornication and divorce, i don't think our gov. has the power to outlaw it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 [quote name='avemaria40' date='Jul 2 2005, 12:09 PM']It's not like rape, murder, abortion, or anything like that where u r physically harming another person. Also, even though i believe it is wrong and a mortal sin, i don't believe we can police ppl's bedrooms. I'm sorry but that's the way i feel. [right][snapback]630021[/snapback][/right][/quote] Speeding isn't physically harming another person, but it's illegal. I think fornication does harm people and society--more so than than paying for one movie at a theatre and sneaking in to watch a second one after the first one ends. The latter is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 (edited) [quote name='avemaria40' date='Jul 2 2005, 02:36 PM']about gay marriage, i also think this is wrong but like fornication and divorce, i don't think our gov. has the power to outlaw it [right][snapback]630080[/snapback][/right] [/quote] There is no such thing as "gay" marriage. Marriage is a natural institution blessing the union of a man and a woman to have children and raise a family. The Church has raised this to a sacrament. The state gives legal recognition to marriages. What the homosexual activists want is this same legal recognition confered upon sodomistic same-sex "unions." This legal recognition of something which can never be a true marriage is something which did not exist until very recently at the urging of homosexual activists. Thus, this "marriage" is is a new legal creation by the law, not something which the state "outlaws." Sodomy is not marriage, and those who practice it have no "right" for it to be recognized as such by the law. Edited July 2, 2005 by Socrates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 I wouldn't mind anti-fornication laws. now, there would still be all the limitations on police et cetera.. and they wouldn't be able to strictly enforce it (nor would I want them to) but having the law in place for those times when it is obvious... teach people some shame and get rid of the open sexually permissive society... i.e. while many would be doing it, they wouldn't be out boasting about it. also, gay marriage is entirely different. now, if you want to make the analogy to outlawing sodomy, like Texas was doing until the Supreme Court stopped them, that's more relatable. However, when it comes to gay marriage the question is: should the government recognize homosexual unions? that's it. gay marriage is not illegal... no one gets arrested for having whatever crazy ceremony they want to say they are married. gay marriage is simply not recognized by the state, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' date='Jul 2 2005, 12:16 PM']Thank you for your response Ave. I understand how fornication and gay marriages are different in society and law and not analogous. But I'd like for you to explain this. How do you distinquish between allowing fornication and not allowing gay marriage? (I assume you're against gay marriage) [right][snapback]630024[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Fornication = (hetero)sexual intercourse without legal recognition. "Gay marriage" = sodomy given legal recognition. Two totally different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jul 2 2005, 06:00 PM']I wouldn't mind anti-fornication laws. now, there would still be all the limitations on police et cetera.. and they wouldn't be able to strictly enforce it (nor would I want them to) but having the law in place for those times when it is obvious... teach people some shame and get rid of the open sexually permissive society... i.e. while many would be doing it, they wouldn't be out boasting about it. also, gay marriage is entirely different. now, if you want to make the analogy to outlawing sodomy, like Texas was doing until the Supreme Court stopped them, that's more relatable. However, when it comes to gay marriage the question is: should the government recognize homosexual unions? that's it. gay marriage is not illegal... no one gets arrested for having whatever crazy ceremony they want to say they are married. gay marriage is simply not recognized by the state, that's it. [right][snapback]630200[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Exactly, Batman (see you're no longer James Bond). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 well... I saw the new Batman movie... and you know... Batman's just so much cooler now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jul 2 2005, 06:29 PM']well... I saw the new Batman movie... and you know... Batman's just so much cooler now [right][snapback]630219[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Batman's my hero. (note the Bruce Wayne avatar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted July 2, 2005 Share Posted July 2, 2005 fornication and gay marriage are two differnt things fornication most deffinatly harms society- just look at teen sex and how that messes up society so much. anti fornication laws would be great but i doubt it would happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craftygrl06 Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 in virginia it is illegal to have sex before marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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