Winchester Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 (edited) A quote from FreeSoul in the ..homophobe.. thread on the issue of homosexuality, imo the doctrine of the church is antithetic to Christ's message. Now, gang, sadly FreeSoul left that thread because I inferred homosexuals were fashion gods, thus grouping me with holocuast revisionists, who also thought this, apparently, which is why Hitler hired them to design little capes for his German Shepherds (dog, not actual shepherds), Muffy and EntrailDevourer. But how can one let an obviously well-informed and potentially enlightening comment just sit by the way and moulder? One cannot, I say! Here I print the Church's position on homosexuality as explained in our current Catechism: 2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,140 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."141 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved. 2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition. 2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection. Surely all of this isn't antithetical to Christ's message, though I can't think of a quote from the big JC that cntradicts any of it, so I'm just gonna have to prevail upon FS to give us the missing piece o' the puzzle. Edited November 11, 2003 by Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeSoul Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 I'm really hoping this won't take long to clarify. I'm not leaving the thread. I'm leaving phatmass. I didn't compare holocaust revisionists to those opposed to homosexuality as I was comparing the majority of experience of phatmass to that actually. peace out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 So I guess that means you're not going to provide the quotes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 Entrail Devourer sounds like a great name for a dog, but I'm afraid peeps would think I was a nazi... Back to the original thought of this thread, I'm with Winnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 i think most people here when they open their mouths on anything relating to homosexuality are antithetical to christ's message. in fact it kind of makes one want to say, "give me heaven for the climate, and hell for the company." but alas, if the church's stand on anything was antithetical to christ's message, then the world would end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 Here's to Winnie. He's true blue. He's a Catholic through and through! JMJ Likos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 raises a glass (of milk) to winchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 Danke, danke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 i think most people here when they open their mouths on anything relating to homosexuality are antithetical to christ's message. in fact it kind of makes one want to say, "give me heaven for the climate, and hell for the company." but alas, if the church's stand on anything was antithetical to christ's message, then the world would end. True. That goes for a lot of pro-homosexuality persons too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 yup there are embarassing loud-mouthed, annoying, hypocritical, and ignorant individuals on every side of every issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 And large. Don't forget large! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 yeah..monstrously obese, I forgot that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 and muscle-bound, well-formed, tan...what was i talking about? anyone else want a cig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 sigh........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 *puts on halo* what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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