crazy protestant quotes

[Aloysius]

read my edit, there is nothing necessarily wrong with your statement. the Church is the mystical body of Christ. Christ saves through His Church, His Church saves through Christ. the two are one in the same.

and as for the fact that the Church is the bride of CHrist.. well Eve was the bride of Adam but as Adam said to Eve so Christ can say to the Church "bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh"

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

so basically your saying that if you are incupably ignorant than the church will give you special graces so you can be saved? is this dogma?

and how is incullpabile ignorance defined?

[Paphnutius]

Indeed but I think it is an important disticntion that the Church can only act in such a way because of Christ.

I agree with what you said Aloysius as Pope Benedict put it in Dominus Jesus (sorry about bringing this document up again, for some reason I am on a big kick about it lately)

16. The Lord Jesus, the only Saviour, did not only establish a simple community of disciples, but constituted the Church as a salvific mystery: he himself is in the Church and the Church is in him (cf. Jn 15:1ff.; Gal 3:28; Eph 4:15-16; Acts 9:5). Therefore, the fullness of Christ's salvific mystery belongs also to the Church, inseparably united to her Lord. Indeed, Jesus Christ continues his presence and his work of salvation in the Church and by means of the Church (cf. Col 1:24-27),47 which is his body (cf. 1 Cor 12:12-13, 27; Col 1:18).48 And thus, just as the head and members of a living body, though not identical, are inseparable, so too Christ and the Church can neither be confused nor separated, and constitute a single "whole Christ".49 This same inseparability is also expressed in the New Testament by the analogy of the Church as the Bride of Christ (cf. 2 Cor 11:2; Eph 5:25-29; Rev 21:2,9).50