KizlarAgha Posted May 29, 2005 Author Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='May 29 2005, 06:32 PM'] You know, I don't see how pants represent oppression. [/quote] Well....ummmm....you see.....I'll tell you later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
let_go_let_God Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='KizlarAgha' date='May 29 2005, 06:30 PM'] I love skirts and dresses. I think women wearing pants is an instrument of the devil himself because pants represent horrible evil oppression and should be burned on sight. [/quote] I don't see how pants are opressing, I could see it for men (we won't go there) but not for women. I rock climb and I know I could not do it in a skirt but pants allow women to do more with out showing what should not be seen. God bless- LGLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='KizlarAgha' date='May 29 2005, 06:30 PM'] I love skirts and dresses. I think women wearing pants is an instrument of the devil himself because pants represent horrible evil oppression and should be burned on sight. [/quote] Hold on a sec... You think that we should dress the same You think pants are of the devil (leaving only skirts and dresses ) You mock Micah for wanting to wear a dress. I'm confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KizlarAgha Posted May 29, 2005 Author Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='let_go_let_God' date='May 29 2005, 06:39 PM'] I don't see how pants are opressing, I could see it for men (we won't go there) but not for women. I rock climb and I know I could not do it in a skirt but pants allow women to do more with out showing what should not be seen. God bless- LGLG [/quote] lol Don't mind me...I'm not sane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KizlarAgha Posted May 29, 2005 Author Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='hot stuff' date='May 29 2005, 06:40 PM'] Hold on a sec... You think that we should dress the same You think pants are of the devil (leaving only skirts and dresses ) You mock Micah for wanting to wear a dress. I'm confused [/quote] No. I think it's weird that everyone accepts gender norms in our society. I think it's funny that Micah defends them as natural and then wants to wear what amounts to a dress for priests. I think pants are of the devil because of what they have societally represented to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='hot stuff' date='May 29 2005, 07:40 PM'] Hold on a sec... You think that we should dress the same You think pants are of the devil (leaving only skirts and dresses ) You mock Micah for wanting to wear a dress. I'm confused [/quote] When did I ever say I want to wear a dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KizlarAgha Posted May 29, 2005 Author Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='May 29 2005, 06:42 PM'] When did I ever say I want to wear a dress? [/quote] A cassock is a dress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='KizlarAgha' date='May 29 2005, 06:41 PM'] No. I think it's weird that everyone accepts gender norms in our society. I think it's funny that Micah defends them as natural and then wants to wear what amounts to a dress for priests. I think pants are of the devil because of what they have societally represented to me. [/quote] Ok I got it now Wait Yup its gone I'm confused again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
let_go_let_God Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='KizlarAgha' date='May 29 2005, 06:40 PM'] lol Don't mind me...I'm not sane... [/quote] Don't worry, I don't think anyone here is, including me. God bless- LGLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='KizlarAgha' date='May 29 2005, 07:43 PM'] A cassock is a dress. [/quote] A cassock is a tunic. A tunic is no more of a dress than a kilt is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KizlarAgha Posted May 29, 2005 Author Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='hot stuff' date='May 29 2005, 06:43 PM'] Ok I got it now Wait Yup its gone I'm confused again [/quote] Objectively, it's weird that we differentiate clothing based on sex and then make it taboo to wear the clothing of the other sex. Ironically, it isn't taboo for women to wear men's clothing, but that's because it is okay for women to want to emulate men because western society values men more than women. Despite all of this cultural baggage it seems like nobody thinks twice about the objective strangeness of gendered clothing. And I find it funny that those who support or defend gendered clothing are willing to wear clothes that are extremely similar to the clothes of the opposite sex but because they have a different name and function, they're acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KizlarAgha Posted May 29, 2005 Author Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='May 29 2005, 06:45 PM'] A cassock is a tunic. A tunic is no more of a dress than a kilt is. [/quote] Fundamentally, a dress is nothing more than a long tunic. A cassock is a long tunic. A cassock is a dress. A kilt is a pleated skirt with a different name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='KizlarAgha' date='May 29 2005, 07:46 PM'] Fundamentally, a dress is nothing more than a long tunic. A cassock is a long tunic. A cassock is a dress. A kilt is a pleated skirt with a different name. [/quote] They are fundamentally different. They look similar, but their intent is different, and therefore, they are categorically two completely different items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KizlarAgha Posted May 29, 2005 Author Share Posted May 29, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='May 29 2005, 06:48 PM'] They are fundamentally different. They look similar, but their intent is different, and therefore, they are categorically two completely different items. [/quote] Well see that's my point. The clothing isn't different, it's the cultural baggage we carry with it. So really, clothing is meaningless outside of culture. Look at it this way: A red headed guy who claims scottish ancestry wears a kilt to school on a special occasion. Nobody finds this odd. But if the same guy were to start wearing the kilt every single day, it would raise eyebrows. Now, if this person isn't scottish, but just feels like wearing the kilt every day - it's weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picchick Posted May 29, 2005 Share Posted May 29, 2005 Men generate more heat than women. So that they don't over heat the hypothalmus compares the signal sent by the sensors located through out the body to the "thermostat". It will then cause the blood vessels to do what they need to or vasodialate so that the blood can be brought to the extremeties to get released into the atmosphere. Women are colder because their blood is being brought to other areas of their body. As far as the pants thing I don't see it as a rebellion thing. I wear pants because they are comfortable. Easier to deal with. and they are protective as well. I would like to hear how they are the instrument of the devil. Also I agree with LGLG....I am not a huge fan of dresses. Unless they are those fancy dresses like for prom and the such....finally someone who understands what I mean about my weirdness for dressing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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