Descration of the Koran Retracted

[Ash Wednesday]

[quote name='thessalonian' date='May 17 2005, 12:10 PM'] Thanks for the correction. [/quote]
BTW Thess I wasn't calling you stupid. That was a big "kick me" sign for Newsweek.

I mean Newsweek, New York Times, the same old garbage. I can see why they would get mixed up!

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='ironmonk' date='May 17 2005, 12:33 PM'] I believe it's time we start sending the media a message.


The way we do that is by protesting to the advertisers in their magazines and who place ads on their news shows... Then, the media will focus more on getting it right.


God Bless,
ironmonk [/quote]
i'm all for that

[StMichael]

17 people died because of this false story.

Truly the pen is mightier than the sword and the media needs to realize they need to hold themselves accountable.

I cannot imagine have that blood on my hands for something most folks read while waiting to see their doctor or dentist.

Truly tragic.

[MichaelFilo]

So, someone give me a summary, please?

God bless,
Mikey

[zwergel88]

[quote] Yup – our liberal media has been very irresponsible and slanted to a dangerous degree[/quote]

liberal media? don't even get me started. surffice it say that I think the media is disgustingly conservative.

Anyway, I think Newsweek is lying about this whole retraction thing. THe story was like a six sentence blurb on a page, and all it said was that some people had reported seeing the Koran desecrated but it hadn't been confirmed. I totally think that they are retracting it just to prevent violence. I don't doubt that soldiers down in Gitmo do things like this and worse to the detainees. They treat them horribly and don't give them any legal rights.

[thessalonian]

[quote]liberal media? don't even get me started. surffice it say that I think the media is disgustingly conservative.[/quote]



Well then your left of left. > 80% of them vote democrat every election.

[Ash Wednesday]

[quote name='zwergel88' date='May 17 2005, 04:11 PM']
liberal media?  don't even get me started.  surffice it say that I think the media is disgustingly conservative.
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I almost had my iced coffee come out through my nose.

[MissScripture]

The liberal media reminds me of this kid in my grade who is ultra liberal. He put up a picture in his senior showcase that showed dead/dying Iraqi kids, and wrote under it, "Stop murdering my brothers and sisters!" I know because of being around him that it is directed at the U.S. government, but seeing it, my first thought was "Who are you talking to, the U.S. or the Iraqis? Cuz this is what the U.S. military is trying to stop." It reminds me of the liberal media, because they get just enough info right that people keep beliveing them, and get people riled up.

[MissScripture]

[quote]Ash Wednesday Posted on May 17 2005, 04:21 PM
I almost had my iced coffee come out through my nose. 
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[Ash Wednesday]

I don't have a problem with people that want to raise questions about the treatment of detainees or the necessity of war.

But making stuff up to push an agenda is horribly wrong.

I find a great deal of the peace movement in the West, while in many ways has noble intentions, in my experience it largely consists of high school and university students that are doing it to feel hip and be trendy. There are certainly things that are worth protesting, but they get more public praise than others -- an effort of wanting to be perceived as admirable rather than standing up for what is wrong or right. How many people in Catholic circles, for example, love to protest war but shy away from protesting abortion! Call me cynical but I call it as I see it from my experience, and I certainly can understand the bitterness of a mentor of mine that was a Vietnam Vet who lashed out at their kind of thoughtless hypocrisy. There were some people protesting when I was in Norway -- Ariel Sharon was visiting at the time and some of the protesters looked ridiculous -- like a bunch of chunky white kids that just got a ride from the mall, were slurping their Starbucks drinks, and decided to slap on a palestinian scarf and stage a good ol' protest.

[musturde]

[quote name='MichaelFilo' date='May 17 2005, 02:39 PM'] So, someone give me a summary, please?

God bless,
Mikey [/quote]
Well Mike, Newsweek said it had proof that at Guantanamo Bay they flushed down a Koran and had placed many Korans in the bathroom to get what they wanted out of people they questioned. Newsweek apologized but I'm not sure if this is really happening or not. Either way, Newsweek is stupid and the writer, editor, and the whole company deserve to be punished if they were all stupid enough not to see how people would react.

[Scofizzle]

sorry meant to post soemthing else

[Scofizzle]

[quote name='zwergel88' date='May 17 2005, 04:11 PM']
liberal media?  don't even get me started.  surffice it say that I think the media is disgustingly conservative.

Anyway, I think Newsweek is lying about this whole retraction thing.  THe story was like a six sentence blurb on a page, and all it said was that some people had reported seeing the Koran desecrated but it hadn't been confirmed.  I totally think that they are retracting it just to prevent violence.  I don't doubt that soldiers down in Gitmo do things like this and worse to the detainees.  They treat them horribly and don't give them any legal rights.[/quote]
conservative ....ok.....maybe we just dont get the same channels......


Secondly prisoners in Gitmo are treated with every right they have according to the geneva convention....

as for the "conservative" media.....wheres the stroy about the US being compassionate and tolerant of all religions...I mean we did give them a Koran in prison in the first place....

[SarahB]

[quote name='zwergel88' date='May 17 2005, 05:11 PM']
liberal media? don't even get me started. surffice it say that I think the media is disgustingly conservative.

Anyway, I think Newsweek is lying about this whole retraction thing. THe story was like a six sentence blurb on a page, and all it said was that some people had reported seeing the Koran desecrated but it hadn't been confirmed. I totally think that they are retracting it just to prevent violence. I don't doubt that soldiers down in Gitmo do things like this and worse to the detainees. They treat them horribly and don't give them any legal rights. [/quote]
Fox is conservative. I'll grant you that one. But the rest of them are not, no matter what anyone says. They're only conservative if Hillary Clinton is your hero.


And as far as the story goes, this reminds me so much of the whole Dan Rather debacle. They had no real proof, just a guy who said he saw something and some papers that were forged and all of a sudden *poof* there's a big scoop about President Bush's tenure in the National Guard. This is the same thing. Some guy reportedly hears about some guards at Gitmo putting a Quran on a toilet and all of a sudden it's a story. It doesn't matter how big the story was. I don't care if they wrote the story in code, they wrote it with no real evidence and with the intention to, once again, cause trouble because they don't like the war. They wrote it knowing that *gasp* people in the Middle East could possibly read it and, horror of horrors, get upset about their holy book being desecrated. And we all know what happens over there when they get angry. They don't hold a peaceful protest and sing "We Shall Overcome". They become mobs and kill people. Anyone who writes a story that like, without clear cut evidence(and one guy who thinks something like that happened isn't exactly what I'm talking about) should at the very least lose their job. We'll just have to wait and see what they do about it.