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how is a 12 string played? what are the 12 strings and is it hard to go from 6 string to 12 string?

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sweatpea:

there are many, many good companies for electrics. and from there, many models. i personally own a Fender. i have a fat strat (2 single coils in the neck and middle positions, and a humbucker in the bridge spot --

single coil:
thinner, bluesy sound. hendrix, clapton, and whole slew of other ppl have used strats, which are the most common single coil guitar

humbucker:
fatter, heavier sound. crunchier and better 'scream'. most often used in rock, although also common in jazz (when played clean, of course). the classic humbucking guitar opposite the strat would be the Gisbson Les Paul. beautiful guitar.

anyway, depending on your style, you should take pickup style into consideration. Gibsons and Fenders are a bit expensive, though. my strat only cost me $350, but a Les Paul would be more than that ($1000ish).
your best bet, because i know nothing of what you want, would be to play on some different ones. check the feel, as some guitars are designed to be smoother, and listen to the tone. try different things. ask me any other questions!!


phillipe:

12 strings are tuned the same as a 6 string (E A D G B E). however, some of the strings are tuned the same, and some are octaves. the string and it's counterpart are placed very close together, so it's easy to finger them normall for chords. 12 strings have a really big sound. they are mostly used for rhythm, though, as it's hard to play lead on a guitar with less room between strings. it also feels weird to play lead on a 12 string. they are fun to play with, though. although, tuning is a bear...

peace,
chris

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those are my guitars. Seagull S6 and Fender Stratocaster. One thing ive noticed is that the seagull scratches very easily because the wood is very soft and ive noticed lots of scratch marks near the sound hole. This is caused by the pick scratching and i really dont want to ruin the guitar because of this. Anyone know how to fix it or is there anything to put from stopping it from hapenning or, does every guitar do this?

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theculturewarrior

[quote name='Philippe' date='Jun 8 2005, 09:08 PM'][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/sk8erstudpg/Guitars/Acousticandelectric.jpg[/img]

those are my guitars. Seagull S6 and Fender Stratocaster. One thing ive noticed is that the seagull scratches very easily because the wood is very soft and ive noticed lots of scratch marks near the sound hole. This is caused by the pick scratching and i really dont want to ruin the guitar because of this. Anyone know how to fix it or is there anything to put from stopping it from hapenning or, does every guitar do this?
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I have a strat too. Only mine is JUST like Jimi Hendrix's, because it's black and white, and left handed. If only I could play like him. :P

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ya btw on my strat, i upgraded my lower pickup to a Seymor Duncan Lil Screamin Deamon humbucker. Its a humbucker that fits in the single coil spot and the guy at the store had one used to he sold it to me cheap.

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theculturewarrior

[quote name='jp2_rules' date='Jun 8 2005, 08:58 PM']

  12 strings are tuned the same as a 6 string (E A D G B E).  however, some of the strings are tuned the same, and some are octaves.  the string and it's counterpart are placed very close together, so it's easy to finger them normall for chords.  12 strings have a really big sound.  they are mostly used for rhythm, though, as it's hard to play lead on a guitar with less room between strings.  it also feels weird to play lead on a 12 string.  they are fun to play with, though.  although, tuning is a bear...

peace,
chris
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Just wanted to say AMEN to that but I wanted to add that it is only the E and B strings that are tuned to the same note and the rest are octaves. Actually though, you get used to tuning it, but restringing a twelve string is nuts! And I would say, that it takes a little more finger strength to play a twelve string. I had mine strung up with six strings and I could play it just fine, the only thing is, when you get in a band or choir, the empty ones rattle. So now I have the E B and G strings strung up double and I'm playing bass notes on the bass strings but I think I'm just going to use my classical guitar for situations that need bass notes and just strum my twelve string with all twelve strings on it.

And pointers for customizing a classical guitar for a lefty?

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nice axes, phillipe. as far as the scratching goes..unless you want to put a guard over th whole top, you can't really help it. it adds character, and shouldn't ruin anything. usually you only get pick scratches on and right around the pick guard. maybe you're just a wild picker... ;)

my guitars:

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sorry those aren't my actual guitars, but they look just like that. although, my strat is actually 'midnight blue', which they don't do anymore. it's a dark blue, almost purple. really pretty..i'll have to show you a pic sometime. it's also got a maple neck. i had to get it custum ordered to get it in that color, and now i don't think they make it in that anymore....too bad.

funny thing about hendrix. he actually played a right handed guitar. he flipped the nut and put the strings on the right way for him (unlike Johnsonville brat dale, who actually learned to play it the wrong way). this allowed him to do things with the whammy bar and volum knobs that most ppl can't do very easily. you know, clapton also played a black and white strat..

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[quote name='theculturewarrior' date='Jun 8 2005, 10:22 PM']Just wanted to say AMEN to that but I wanted to add that it is only the E and B strings that are tuned to the same note and the rest are octaves. Actually though, you get used to tuning it, but restringing a twelve string is nuts! And I would say, that it takes a little more finger strength to play a twelve string. I had mine strung up with six strings and I could play it just fine, the only thing is, when you get in a band or choir, the empty ones rattle. So now I have the E B and G strings strung up double and I'm playing bass notes on the bass strings but I think I'm just going to use my classical guitar for situations that need bass notes and just strum my twelve string with all twelve strings on it.

And pointers for customizing a classical guitar for a lefty?
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customizing how?

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theculturewarrior

I need the strings to lie down so it keeps a tune when you put a capo on. I'm going to have to file the nut when the e and a strings go, maybe the D string too, I don't know, but I'm not quite sure how to go about it.

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franciscanheart

i was watching the eagles special the other day and i dont remember which one it was but ONE of them haha ( :P ) had a twelve string attached to a six string... it was so cool. ive never seen anything like it. he was amazing. :drool:

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tcw:

you could file down the bridge or nut. neither option is fun, and you have to be so careful. you can take off wood etc.. easily, but you can't put it back. i've only needed to file a nut once, and that was on a super messed up guitar. i don't recommend that option, personally.

you could also try adjusting the truss rod. it runs down through the neck and gets adjusted with an allen wrench. it can bend the neck to fix bows going up or down. however, not doing it right can put unwanted pressure on the neck, and mess it up. you could also snap the rod, and that's a big money repair. if you don't know what you're doing, i suggest taking it somewhere to have that done. i've done some truss rod adjustments, and if you know what you're doing, they're pretty easy.

i'm assuming that your brigde isn't adjustable? your best bet may be the truss rod. it's hard to say, as i haven't seen the guitar. where/when did you buy it? sometimes, the store you bought it from will do set ups for you for free (mostly the little shops, although even then it depends. the place i got my fender does string changes and adjustments for free whenever i want/need them. not bad!!).

hope that maybe that helped!!!

oh, i love double neck guitars!! i've also seen triple (12 string, 6 string and mandolin). jimmy page played a double neck Gibson SG. very beautiful guitar.

peace,
chris

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