M.SIGGA Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I might be wrong, but I really don't think this is a good idea. http://the-news.net/cgi/story.pl?title=Fát...ine&edition=727 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulls Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 (edited) There goes that "One world Relgion" carp I'm tired of this. Why can't the Vatican just stay away from the Un? This is very wrong. The Early Church Fathers would be outraged. Sorry ya'll, but come on, this is freaky The Un is like a "One world Government" Now it seems like there's gonna be a mixture for a "One world Religion".? Why is this even going on? Why is our Church so open? Edited November 6, 2003 by MC Just Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 "One of the principle speakers, the Jesuit theologian Father Jacques Dupuis, was insistent that the religions of the world must unite. "The religion of the future will be a general converging of religions in a universal Christ that will satisfy all", he said. " Ok now i'm starting to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 This is a newspaper article not a vatican pronouncement. Please do not equate the two. Theologians and "groups" do not run the Church, praise God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 "Therefore we must assume that it was the will of the Blessed Virgin Mary that this comes about this way." Traditional Catholics opposed to the Congress were described by the Monsignor as "old fashioned, narrow minded, fanatic extremists and provocateurs." That probably includes the Pope. I don't think that he will allow this, if it has to go through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Date: 09-Nov-98 Jesuit Priest Investigated By Vatican For Heresy ROME (CWNews.com) - A Jesuit priest at the Pontifical Gregorian University is being investigated by the Congregation for Doctrine of the Faith for a book he wrote on religious plurality, the priest told the Italian news agency ANSA on Saturday. Father Jacques Dupuis, 74, said he had been sent an initial interrogative survey related to his book "Towards a Christian Theology of Religious Pluralism" by the Congregation. The priest explained that he had been given three months to reply and is not allowed to discuss the inquiry. "I can't explain the allegations because I've been banned from talking to anyone, colleagues or journalists, about the charges and I cannot talk publicly about my arguments," ANSA quoted him as saying THIS is why theologians do not run the church!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Betcha the Masons got something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Thanks for posting that Cmom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Whats this about? Delegates attending the Vatican and United Nations (UN) inspired annual interfaith congress "The Future of God", held during October in Fátima, heard how the Shrine is to be developed into a centre where all the religions of the world will gather to pay homage to their various gods. The Congress was held in the Paul VI Pastoral Centre and presided over by the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon José de Cruz Policarpo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 This is a newspaper article not a vatican pronouncement. Please do not equate the two. Theologians and "groups" do not run the Church, praise God. This might be just a newspaper article, but it looks really similar to the activities that take place at the Franciscan Shrine in Assisi. Getting along with different folks is important, but a line needs to be drawn between what is Christian and what must be rejected as evil. I can just hear Jerry Fawell and Pat Robertson now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 This might be just a newspaper article, but it looks really similar to the activities that take place at the Franciscan Shrine in Assisi. Getting along with different folks is important, but a line needs to be drawn between what is Christian and what must be rejected as evil. I can just hear Jerry Fawell and Pat Robertson now... Yeah. I was there for my honeymoon. Sad really. But the day we were there just happened to be Sunday, and I got to celebrate the Eucharist above the tomb of my Patron Saint! Wooooowhooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Gus Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 I have no problem with all the world religions uniting, and neither does the Church. After all, what is the Ecumenical movement all about? Every human being is inherently religious, that is to say, every human being seeks the answers to the fundamental questions, and every human being deserves those answers. That's what the Church is doing, providing us with the truth. I have no problem with all the world religions uniting, provided the truth is not lost or tarnished. Essentially, what I am saying is that I have no problem with all the world religions uniting, provided they all become Catholic. That's a tall ask, but that's what I pray for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted November 7, 2003 Author Share Posted November 7, 2003 (edited) I have no problem with all the world religions uniting, and neither does the Church. After all, what is the Ecumenical movement all about? Every human being is inherently religious, that is to say, every human being seeks the answers to the fundamental questions, and every human being deserves those answers. That's what the Church is doing, providing us with the truth. I have no problem with all the world religions uniting, provided the truth is not lost or tarnished. Essentially, what I am saying is that I have no problem with all the world religions uniting, provided they all become Catholic. That's a tall ask, but that's what I pray for. I'm hoping that what you mean by the Church being ok w/ all the world's religions uniting you mean that they all except Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, repent and become baptised and confirmed in the faith? This situation, like the one in that happens in Assisi, isn't going to be a 'Comming Home' event; if this article is factual that means there are gonna be Wiccans praying to the goddess and hindus chanting to Shiva while Christians are worshipping God. Our Lady of Fatima appeared with a message of conversion and it's almost a slap in the face if it becomes a temple for pagans. I don't know about the whole ecumenical movement; some of it is good and all the intentions are good, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Only about 250 years ago some of my ancestors from the Carribean were converted from paganism and I have seen people who practice santeria and voodoo and I don't want to go there. I know I sound a little Puritanical but the modern ecumenical movement all seems like a big step backwards for the Church and Christianity as a whole. Instead of praying with pagans we should throw holy water on them to get the demons out! Edited November 7, 2003 by M.SIGGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Gus Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 I'm hoping that what you mean by the Church being ok w/ all the world's religions uniting you mean that they all except Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, repent and become baptised and confirmed in the faith? Yes, that is exactly what I said. Essentially, what I am saying is that I have no problem with all the world religions uniting, provided they all become Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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