Eucharist on sale on Ebay

[p0lar_bear]

There are not words to describe how offended I am....this is the second one. One was sold last week for $2,000 (bought by a Grand Knight from the Knights of Columbus to protect it).

[url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1447&item=6171703649&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...ssPageName=WDVW[/url]

[Brother Adam]

You're kindof late on this one eh?

Last week we had a four page thread on another Eucharist that sold on ebay for $2000 dollars. Ebay also sent most of us rude emails.

[Jazz4jesus]

[quote]I will only realease this item to a bona-fide purchaser who can show me proof of his intentions not to use this item for an ulterior purpose.[/quote]

hahaha, and he/she doesnt have the right intent

[Colleen]

:angry: This is so disgusting. My family is now boycotting eBay. I think it's terrible that eBay refuses to stop this. It's so wrong.


Current bid: GBP 7,100.00
(Approximately US $13,440.30)

[p0lar_bear]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Apr 19 2005, 12:01 AM'] You're kindof late on this one eh?

Last week we had a four page thread on another Eucharist that sold on ebay for $2000 dollars. Ebay also sent most of us rude emails. [/quote]
I know, I'm just horribly upset its happening again...

[Brother Adam]

Dear Fitch,

Thank you for your response.

I would hope your Catholic employees would be outraged by the sale of the
Eucharist on Ebay. Unlike relics and mormon garments, what has been allowed
to take place here is the sale of the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of
Jesus Christ. While this belief is not held by non-Catholics, Ebay should
make it their policy to respect the religious beliefs of others. Including
the Mormon, Buddhist, and other religions.

I will be sure to foreward your response on to the Catholic League, ZENIT
News Agency, and other Catholic organizations who's membership numbers in
the hundreds of millions worldwide. You have of course lost me as a
customer, and I will include in my email all Ebay subsidary companies so
those too can be avoided. While no company truly cares if they lose one
customer, I believe you will see a noticable affect to the bottom line in
your company in the coming months.

If your company changes their policy to respect religious organizations in
the future, please email me.

Sincerely,
Adam Janke
Catechatics, Franciscan University of Steubenville in Ohio

----Original Message Follows----
From: eBay Customer Support <rswebhelp@ebay.com>
Reply-To: eBay Customer Support <rswebhelp@ebay.com>
To: <janke_ad@hotmail.com>
Subject: EN62827 PI Response to your email concerning eBay's ended listing
policies. (KMM164585420V57884L0KM)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:12:05 -0700

Hello,

Thank you for taking the time to write eBay with your concerns. I'm
happy to help you further.

We understand that you are upset at having seen certain Catholic items
or items related to the Pope on eBay, including item #6169851381.
Because eBay’s community is a diverse, international group of more than
135 million users with varied backgrounds and beliefs, there are times
when some items listed on eBay by sellers might be offensive to at least
some of our users somewhere in the world. At times, members may see
listings that they may consider morally wrong or objectionable. However,
even though these listings may be offensive to some, please remember
that most of the time the law does not prohibit the items.

Due to the fact that eBay’s focus is to have a free and diverse
community, we are reluctant to interfere with listings that are not
illegal. Regarding offensive items, there are many items that are
considered sacred to many people of various religions, and we sometimes
hear complaints about these items. Examples would be Catholic relics of
saints, Mormon (LDS) garments, certain Buddhist tablets, etc. However,
eBay has made the decision not to prohibit any item only on the basis of
the item being endowed with sacred properties by certain religious
groups. In general, eBay will remove items for a violation of our
Offensive Materials policy only in extreme examples in which the listing
explicitly promotes hatred, violence, or racial intolerance. However, we
do not remove religious items that are otherwise legal for sale and do
not violate any other eBay listing policy.

Please keep in mind that many of us at eBay may also share your distaste
with an item, and may not support the sale. In fact, eBay has many
Catholic employees. However, we do our best to understand and tolerate
the many viewpoints held by our worldwide community. The Eucharist is
not illegal to sell, and is generally allowed on eBay as long as the
seller does not otherwise include hateful text or images in the listing.
Although we realize that you may not agree with this decision on eBay’s
part, we hope that you can respect the diverse and open nature of eBay’s
marketplace.

It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing eBay.

Regards,

Fitch
Community Watch Team
eBay Trust & Safety

[fearlessapostle]

[quote name='Colleen' date='Apr 18 2005, 10:02 PM'] :angry: This is so disgusting. My family is now boycotting eBay. I think it's terrible that eBay refuses to stop this. It's so wrong.
[/quote]
Now THERE's an answer ! Not that it would probably do any good, but still a wonderful thought !

[Jazz4jesus]

Hmm since its not an illegal matter maybe we should try to make it an illegal matter

[jezic]

it is really sad that this is happening again.

[Phazzan]

You understand this is probably a fraud yes?

[Dreamweaver]

Well, I don't see why they don't permit the sale of other religious items (Mormon undergarments for example), but turn a blind eye when the Eucharist is sold. Hypocrisy? Yes.

:angry:

I don't even purchase things on Ebay, and I definately won't now, as they don't respect my faith at all.

[Fidei Defensor]

I dont know about this one.. there is no picture or anything, so how can you be sure? The bid seems quite high for it to be a fraud.. Lets pray that someone will get it who will take it to a Church

Hail Mary, Full of Grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed are thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death, Amen.

[p0lar_bear]

OK, so ebay doesn't listen. (still waiting on responses from the CEO)...what about writing the seller?...seeing if the secular media will get involved? I don't love everything Bill O'Reilly says, but he's Catholic, so might be willing to get behind this.... The Cardinals are a bit preoccupied right now, but are people letting their bishops know about this? We can do more than just write ebay


It's up to 2 million dollars right now...

[thicke]

I kind of liked [url="http://cnytr.blogspot.com/2005/04/once-again-ebay-strikes-out.html"]the idea[/url] that Lauren from [url="http://cnytr.blogspot.com"]CNYTR[/url] had. After all, this does violate [url="http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/food.html"]The eBay policy about food[/url].

[StMichael]

This is the perfect example why Holy Communion should be given on the tongue only.

As for eBay, this is against the laws of the Roman Catholic Church and for eBay to claim otherwise and not cease and desist this at once offends over 1.1 billion Catholics worldwide.

Spread the word and lets see if we can't create a webpage outlining this as well as an email writing campaign from this page.

We must defend and save the Body of Christ.