CatholicAndFanatical Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Thank you Father, glad you could make time to post your comment. well, that seals it for me. Im uninstalling Emule and Kazaa and wont touch it anymore. Also, this goes into my novel I have to tell father when I confess saturday..lol Thanks again Father P, you da best. CatholicAndFanatical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted November 7, 2003 Author Share Posted November 7, 2003 Would it be perfectly fine though, if I were to copy music from a CD I own onto my PC to listen to myself? I don't use Kazaa anymore, nor do I plan on sharing it over a P2P system. Btw, is it wrong to send a clip of a song to 1 friend once in a while? I'm not sending full albums or anything. I just don't understand how copying music from a CD onto a PC, for personal use would be illegal and/or a sin, if Microsoft allows it on their Media player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morostheos Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 The thing with that law, is it was created before computers existed, and computer originally couldn't copy media, hence their not being classified as recording equipment. So the whole law is very blurry, no one actually knows what it means. No one is interested in prosecuting those who copy music that they own onto their own computer, so it becomes hard to decide what the law actually is. There are also (vague) rights attached to buying copyrighted material, so it's hard to tell what those rights are and what the law actually applies to. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted November 7, 2003 Author Share Posted November 7, 2003 The thing with that law, is it was created before computers existed, and computer originally couldn't copy media, hence their not being classified as recording equipment. So the whole law is very blurry, no one actually knows what it means. No one is interested in prosecuting those who copy music that they own onto their own computer, so it becomes hard to decide what the law actually is. There are also (vague) rights attached to buying copyrighted material, so it's hard to tell what those rights are and what the law actually applies to. So it won't be a sin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 so wait.. you're allowed to copy a tape with a tape recorder cause the taper recorder companies pay royalties to the music industry? so you'd be allowed to copy a CD onto a tape using a tape recorder and share it with your friends? but you can't copy a CD onto a CD with a burner since burner companies don't pay royalties? or DO THEY? cuz i bet when burners were invented it was pretty evident THEY, not the computers but the burners, were a copying tool, right? i'm gonna invent a new phrase right here, right now. it's called non-profit commercial sale. it's like what they do at Kazaa, which is like opening up a store with all copied versions of your own CD's and putting a big sign out front that says "Free CD's" that's non-profit commercial sale. that is what should be immoral/illegal. however, copying a CD and letting a friend borrow it, is that illegal? or is it only legal if you copy it with a tape recorder like the previous questions? anyone know enough to answer that? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_bc Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 On a more general level: Some laws are not expected to be strictly followed. What are we supposed to do with those? Copyright laws are an example of this; it may technically be illegal to copy your cd's onto the computer, but the intent of the law is almost certainly not to force you to put the cd into the cd drive every time you want to listen to it through computer. It's just common sense; who could possibly care if the cd is in the computer or on the shelf ? Surely we're not supposed to be _that_ fundamentalist in interpreting the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theologian in Training Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Here is a perfect example, and not one that I have done, purely hypothetical. What if, after getting my new Massmatics CD, some of my less affluent seminary brothers wanted a copy, am I justified in copying it for them? Something to think about ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 Here is a perfect example, and not one that I have done, purely hypothetical. What if, after getting my new Massmatics CD, some of my less affluent seminary brothers wanted a copy, am I justified in copying it for them? Something to think about I wouldn't think that's justified. However, I did send one song from the Massmatics cd to Anna, as a preview of what she'll get. Since at the moment, the samples are not up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theologian in Training Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 I wouldn't think that's justified. However, I did send one song from the Massmatics cd to Anna, as a preview of what she'll get. Since at the moment, the samples are not up. So, now is it starting to make a little more sense? You say that hypothetical situation is not justified, yet what about all the other CD's from which we do the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 So, now is it starting to make a little more sense? You say that hypothetical situation is not justified, yet what about all the other CD's from which we do the same? I never have supported people copying entire (or even half of) albums. I always believe one or two songs (max) from a cd, to get a taste of how good a CD is, is "OK". Though I can be wrong...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theologian in Training Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 I never have supported people copying entire (or even half of) albums. I always believe one or two songs (max) from a cd, to get a taste of how good a CD is, is "OK". Though I can be wrong...? How is that any different though? One song or ten songs are still copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 I was looking at my knights of columbus confession guide and it specifically ask if you have pirated music you should confess. its under the thou shalt not steal commandment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 Darn, another sin to confess. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jrob8503 Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 fight the powers that be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 :( man... i love kazaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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