azaelia Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 [quote name='jdawg83' date='Apr 25 2005, 12:49 PM'] Actually, doctors have said she had no realistic chance of rehabilitation. Her brain was 90% destroyed. IMO, from the credible sources I have read, her husband Michael did just about everything he could to help her, and the pro-lifers crusade to paint him as a murderer has reflected on their cause very poorly indeed. [/quote] Your "credible sources" are most likely all liberal. They have just as much of an agenda as the pro-life movement. Besides, Michael pledged to help Terri, and instead spent all the money on an attorney to remove her feeding tube, suddenly remembering that she had said she wouldn't want to live like that. In any other court, that would be considered hearsay and not allowed. Why was it allowed here? There was no hard evidence she wanted to die. That and he refused to have her treated for several life-threatening infections, he didn't allow her to have her teeth cleaned, and banned her own family from so much as visiting her many times. Sounds like a loving husband with only his wife's best interest in mind to me. [/sarcasm] You can look at the timeline [url="http://terrisfight.org/timeline.html"]here[/url]. Now I'd like to see these so-called "credible sources" you cite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jdawg83 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 [quote name='Crispy' date='Apr 25 2005, 01:23 PM'] the point is that no one has the right to act as God (i.e. no one can decide to take a life). she must be allowed to live as long as she will on her own. only God should decide when she will no longer live. [/quote] Human beings are arbitrators of life and death all the time. Capital punishment, armed forces and police are some examples of how God or otherwise has enlisted us with the power and authority to take life. I don't buy the "only God should decide when she will no longer live" arguement because I don't think it would be in God's nature to miraculously make a plank fall on her head, or any intervention of any sort. There was no miracle here, she was fit to live provided she received food, water and the basic medical care, but her quality of life was so poor her husband saw it fit to let her go, otherwise nature would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jdawg83 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 [quote name='azaelia' date='Apr 25 2005, 02:22 PM'] Now I'd like to see these so-called "credible sources" you cite. [/quote] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo[/url] A whole lot more credible than your sources, Azaelia. Particularly the bit about life threatening infections, therapy etc, receive a particularly harsh rebuttal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciana Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 The whole issue of whether she was in a PVS is in question by many doctors, and PVS itself has issues w/ its definition. To diagnose it, a doctor ahs to have many and long visits with the patient, something that doctors that presented for Michael's case did not. Nurses who cared for her testified. A new trial and look at the evidence was supposed to happen and it didn't. The judge just lookec at the old case. Plus, all these issues aside, the original court case was flawed because since when does hearsay count in a court of law? All they had was Michael's word that she once mentioned to him during a movie ab out not wanting to be like the character int he movie (which anyway was in a different medical condition than hers.) There was no written document, so they shoukd ere on the side of life, esp. since food and water are basics we supply to less disabled patients. Food and water are not extraordinary measures. Denying them is aaginst Church teaching. Ifear for this country in that we have gone down this path. Since when woukd anybody want to die of starvation and thirst? what happened to the Hippocratic oath? my sister is a nurse ina hospital in our area and this scares her even more, cause she can imagine what will further happen w/ an increasing culture of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azaelia Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 [quote name='jdawg83' date='Apr 25 2005, 11:48 PM'] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo[/url] A whole lot more credible than your sources, Azaelia. Particularly the bit about life threatening infections, therapy etc, receive a particularly harsh rebuttal. [/quote] You can say that as many times as you want, but that doesn't make it true by any means. The source you cited is riddled with liberals, and is biased in favor of Terri's death. As Catholics we are called to be biased in favor of life. Terri Schiavo was not in a PVS. She hadn't had a CAT scan since 1997 so there was no possible way to tell what was going on with her brain. Refute these: [url="http://terrisfight.org/documents.html"]http://terrisfight.org/documents.html[/url] and this: [url="http://terrisfight.org/multimedia.html"]http://terrisfight.org/multimedia.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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