What I'm Seeing about the Schiavo case

[ardillacid]

Was it just me or was this story totally misrepresented in the media? Was it just coincidence that Mr. Shiavo "remembered" his wife's wish to die around seven years later? How come he would not let music be played in her room, not let her receive the sacraments, allow hardly any visitors, hell, she hadn't even gotten her teeth cleaned in years! As for the "persistent vegetative state," a doctor from Mayo clinic in Rochestor, MN, where people come from around the world to be cared for, said it appeared to him that she was NOT in a PVS? But you would not hear this on mainstream news, would you?

[MichaelFilo]

I think you said something that is quite true.

God bless,
Mikey

[burnsspivey]

[quote name='ardillacid' date='Apr 11 2005, 10:18 PM'] Was it just me or was this story totally misrepresented in the media? Was it just coincidence that Mr. Shiavo "remembered" his wife's wish to die around seven years later? How come he would not let music be played in her room, not let her receive the sacraments, allow hardly any visitors, hell, she hadn't even gotten her teeth cleaned in years! As for the "persistent vegetative state," a doctor from Mayo clinic in Rochestor, MN, where people come from around the world to be cared for, said it appeared to him that she was NOT in a PVS? But you would not hear this on mainstream news, would you? [/quote]
If that's what you got from the media then I'm going to go with 'yes, it has been misrepresented'.

For the last time: The [b]court appointed[/b] doctors found that she was in a PVS. Doctors hired by her parents can't be considered more objective than court appointed ones.

[megrc]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' date='Mar 23 2005, 10:39 AM'] I think they're allowing her husband the choice of whether or not to let her stay on support or be taken off. Her husband decided after fifteen or so years not to extend her support any longer. [/quote]
You are right, he has the right to choose what his wife would have wanted. The point here is that we don't know anything for sure, except what the media has been telling us. I don't think anyone here has any personal( and by that I mean family) connections with the Schivo family.

Yes, I agree killing someone is wrong, but her quality of life wasn't that good. I would rather she be in peace now then still hooked up to those machines. I will however continue to pray for Michael, that he made the right choice and that he doesn't start to regret the choice. That's all that anyone can do now.

[Quietfire]

For the last time.
This has been going on in the courts for years.
Every doctor that Michael Shiavo has bought in has testified that his wife was in a PVS.
On the other hand, every other doctor who has tested her has stated against that. They have stated that she is lucid and recognizes specific people. They have also stated that she tenses up when her husband would show up.

Lets face reality. He wanted to move on. He just didnt want her (Terri)around. It interferred with his adulterous relationship that produced children out of wedlock.
He refused to divorce her not because he was Catholic, but because it would result in a loss of money on his part. So he used the fact that he and her both were Catholic as an excuse to not divorce her, but I guess starving her to death was acceptable.
So in essence...he used the fact that he was Catholic to murder his wife.

When we deny ANYONE food and water, under any circumstances, then
we are slowly starving them to death. You just cant argue around that point, no matter how many doctors you bring in otherwise.

Providing water and food is NOT ARTIFICIAL, no matter how it is taken.
Whether I consume through my mouth or through a tube, there is nothing artificial about it. Infants cannot feed themselves without assistance, does that make them less human? Or not human at all?

Using a machine to keep my lungs inhaling and exhaling oxygen when they can not do it themselves, or a machine to pump blood through my arteries because my heart cannot do that task IS a form of artificial assistance.

There is a vast difference.

Edited April 12, 2005 by Quietfire

[burnsspivey]

[quote name='Quietfire' date='Apr 12 2005, 05:38 PM'] For the last time.
This has been going on in the courts for years.
Every doctor that Michael Shiavo has bought in has testified that his wife was in a PVS.
On the other hand, every other doctor who has tested her has stated against that. They have stated that she is lucid and recognizes specific people. They have also stated that she tenses up when her husband would show up. [/quote]
Wrong. The doctors were court appointed (somehow I thought putting that in bold would help you notice it) not brought in by Mr. Schiavo. There's an important and significant difference.

[Quietfire]

Oh, I read that. But its amusing that Michael always made sure he was there to give the nudge.

I wonder if you've ever seen the movie "awakening".

Who decides if a person is cognitive or not?
Who decides if a person is viable or not?

Keep in mind, the key word is person.