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I'll be using confirmed spoilers, speculations, and rumors from http://www.theforce.net (the 2nd largest Star Wars site next to SW.com). All content will be need to be highlighted, so if you mistakenly make your way in here, you won't be able to see anything... unless you highlight.

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- The Battle of Coruscant will be the biggest space battle the Star Wars franchise has ever seen. Expect to see some cool capital ship vs. capital ship warfare. Each side has lots of varied looking warships. The Republic has ships that are more than just Star Destroyers. Might even see an old Ralph McQuarrie design or two get put into place here.

- Expect one of the final shots of the film to be Vader, Tarkin and Palpatine on a Star Destroyer bridge looking out onto space at the beginnings of a Death Star in progress...(but not necessarily THE last shot of the film...) my understanding of the last shot before iris out will be on Tatooine.

- When Padme faces Anakin on Mustafar, Anakin is incredibly upset with her when he realizes she brought Obi-Wan with her. She led Obi-Wan right to him. From Anakin's point of view, he trusted her and she betrayed him. Anakin force-chokes Padme and throws her aside (where she also hits her head.) Then, the duel begins amidst the corpses of the slaughtered Seperatist leaders.

- The twins are born on a brand new never-before seen world (whose name has not been revealed yet.) They land there when they realize that Padme isn't going to make it if they keep pushing on to Alderaan. The natives of this planet resemble little grey close encounters/roswell aliens. Padme finally succumbs to her wounds suffered from Anakin during the birthing scene. She is able to share a few choice words with Obi-Wan before passing. Bail, Obi-Wan and Yoda hatch the plans for what to do with the children. Bail sees to it that C-3PO's memory is wiped. Yoda is dropped off via escape pod at Dagobah where he will await the proper time to do his part. The jedi have been utterly duped and defeated by films end.

- Medical droids turn the remains of Anakin Skywalker (now named Darth Vader) into the classic trilogy cyborg Darth Vader we know and love. His reveal is very "Frankenstein." (He lays on a slab that slowly rises up when he is completed.) When Vader rises, his first desire is knowledge of Padme's fate. Palpatine calmly and cooly tells him that she is dead and that he(Anakin/Vader) killed her. His sorrow and regret result in an awe-inspiring physical manifestation of the dark side of the force. The entire room buckles and twists away from his anguished screams. Every droid in the room is obliterated. Palpatine has to muster all of his powers just to shield himself from Vader's wrath. Vader's echoed scream segues directly into the next scene: Padme's funeral procession.

More to come...

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lol Yeah, I used to read the end of books first, that way if I thought it was dumb I wouldn't waste my time reading the whole thing only to hate it at the end. I finally stopped that mostly after my older sister refused to let me read some books unless I promised not to read the end first. I still have a tendancy to that, though, if I don't want to read the whole thing. :lol:

And if I've already seen a movie I talk through it. Conversation makes it more fun. :D

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Following spoilers were reported by "Darth Friday"...

- Yoda vs. Sidious DOES happen. Maybe even in the Jedi Temple....maybe in the council chambers...and maybe while the temple is under attack and being destroyed...

- When Obi-Wan kills Grievous, his eyes come out of his head...very Raiders of the Lost Ark gruesome. George likes to leave no doubt that his villains are inDouche dead.

- Qui-Gon definitely finds a way to communicate with Obi-Wan in the film.

- You'll empathize with Anakin for feeling neglected and betrayed by the jedi order. They really don't treat him with any respect despite his heroic actions early in the film.

- Remember the set diary where Bail is firing at unseen assailants as he gets to his speeder? Expect him to be shooting at clone/stormtroopers.

- Obi-Wan takes Luke to Tatooine because he knows that Tatooine is the one place that Anakin will never willingly return there.

:D

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Another by "Darth Friday"...

As part of Anakin's seduction, Palpatine makes implications that he knows of ways to cheat death.

After the duel: Obi-Wan flees with Padme, Anakin is pulled from the lava by Palpatine's henchmen. Palpatine is also present as this is the scene where he gives him the name Darth Vader.

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NEW SPOILER by Tooltre... [highlight to read]

Hayden Christensen as Darth Vader really isn't in the film for all that long of a time. In fact, he gets maybe five minutes at the maximum. Here's some details on what scenes you can expect him in:

1) He will be seen just for a couple minutes in the much talked about "waking-up" scene. This is after his recovery from the duel and he realizes what he has done and what has happened to him. He is shown here without the cape and upper helmet.

2) There's the "Sith christening" scene also known as the knighting as a Sith Lord. Another couple of minutes when he'll be seen during the film. He is also named here.

3) And finally, there's the "superstructure being built" minute where you can see the Death Star being constructed from his viewpoint with a few other notable Empire characters.

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EP3: SPY REPORT: Deep Fried

We passed a top secret picture from Episode III to one of our favorite comic book artists Tom Hodges (site: http://www.tomhodges.com/). It was a shot described previously by Timberwolf who everyone knows is 100% legit. You can read one of those previous reports here (http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/tfn.cgi?storyID=22122) and one from the insider named Captain right here (http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/tfn.cgi?storyID=21863) as well. Here's the results of what we can show you: http://cgi.theforce.net/image.cgi?Image=ep...s/AnakinTDH.jpg

We've also contacted another artist (non-comic style) for a second opinion which should update this story tomorrow afternoon. Look for it!

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EP3: SPY REPORT: Name Change

"A new insider we've managed to confirm codenamed Kernan Industries sheds some light on a much discussed missing clue from the classics that will appear in Episode III. Here's a spoiler report that helps shed some light on a name change in the movie:" [highlight to read]

There's a minor quabble among fans on how Obi-Wan gets his name changed to "Ben" in the classic Episode IV. For long lengths to time, fans have speculated that it may be answered in Episode III. Well, from what we hear it will be. Here's how it goes:

Obi-Wan's given name is Ben - but he's been called Obi-Wan for so long no one seems to know otherwise. As they zip around the galaxy in the new Jedi Star/Tiefighters there is a scene where Anakin, having discovered Kenobi's actual name recently (though not seen in the film), calls him "Ben" as a jest in the middle of a blazing firefight. Obi-Wan responds, saying "This is no time for jokes Anakin! Besides you know I hate it when you call me that" - but Anakin persists. "Did Qui-Gon ever know your real name?" he asks. Obi-Wan blasts a few enemy ships, then says he fears that everyone will know now that Anakin does.

Speculation then would lead us to believe that after the fall of Anakin to the Dark Side. Obi-Wan escapes into hiding, calling himself Ben and burying himself on a planet where Vader would least want to return to. He uses the name as a painful reminder of his relationship with the fallen padawan, who he would someday face again one day.

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And for today (11/13/03)

EP3: Answers from Samuel L. Jackson (Mace Windu)

"Ricardo Elorza got a chance last Friday to sit down with Samuel L. Jackson in Madrid, Spain. He was there promoting "S.W.A.T". And while he was interviewing him for his TV show, he also shot off some questions for TFN. Here's a transcript of what he said about Episode III."

Q: OK, now that you´ve finished your participation in the "Star Wars´ movies... A: Not necessarily.

Q: Well, maybe there are some pick-up shots left (nods his head in agreement), how was the experience of portraying a Jedi Knight?

A: It´s been amesome! It was a lot more than I bargain for when I asked, you know,to be in the films. George Lucas did an enormous kind of favor for me by creating this particular role because I was just asking for being in the film. I was willing kind of being a stormtrooper or whatever, run to a frame or something and say, I was in the film! That´s me, right there! He created this really interesting character for me that is an important character that, now, has...I guess, a place the "Star Wars" lore that´s pretty prominent.

I think in Episode III he´s definetely answered a lot of the questions that people had over the years about how this particular thing happened or why this person is this way, you know...who is connected to this and who is connected to that, but I think, he´s also done what a lot of people has asked and probably gone a little further in that people was so angry about the first episode because they thought it was just a kiddy movie and the second episode because is kind of, well...that didn´t answer all the things we need.

So now, he has put all these things together and tied it up. It´s very dark and shakespearean...and adult, and more violent than a "Star Wars" movie used to be. Hopefully they´ll be satisfied with this particular episode.

Q: You wanted to be in these films...you got it. You asked for a purple light saber...you got it. Did you get the proper death you demanded for your character?

A: (Laughing)Yeah...I did.

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(11/13/03)

EP3: SPY REPORT: Clone Vehicle Revealed

We first described it in a newsletter exclusive SPY REPORT on October 26th. And today we have what we believe is a super-accurate drawing of the vehicle you'll see in Episode III. Click on the picture below to reveal, thanks again to Tom Hodges (site) for the drawing: http://cgi.theforce.net/image.cgi?Image=/e...cs/atst-tdh.jpg

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(11/13/03)

EP3: The Future of Hyperspace (No highlight needed)

Razorback was the first to notice a bit more to come from the Official Site's pay service Hyperspace. Here's what Episode III junkies get to look forward to after the lull:

*Episode III Post-Production reports

*Kessel Mines - digging in the corners of the Star Wars galaxy

*first look: Making of Episode III documentaries

*first look: George Lucas Selects Episode III images

*Exclusive online celebrity talks

Note: http://www.starwars.com is where you can sign up for Hyperspace. It's only 20 bucks a year, really cheap if you ask me. It has webcams, exclusive images, documentaries, and etc. They had a webcam for the production of Episode III (saw the sets, costumes and such). Now the webcam is back up for post-production.

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(11/13/03)

EP3: SPY REPORT: So Long, Farewell

Kernan Industries comes back a second time for another SPY REPORT, this time focusing on one interpersonal relationship we'll see briefly explored in Episode III:

So far we know that Obi-Wan becomes good friends with a character in the film. Ironically, he is a one of the new clonetroopers - you should know that these are the ones that are the final step forward in the evolution to the stormtroopers we all know and love.

The clone/stormtrooper is from Trooper Factory 011 on the planet Coruscant. He is a prototype Stormtrooper. Eventually he is one of the jillions of troopers created for the beginning of the Empire, unbeknownst to Kenobi) and this is one of the scores of factories on different worlds all over the galaxy. We'll finally get to see where the Classic Trilogy stormtroopers are born. You remember that number on their backpack, don't you? Wow.

On the back of this clone/stormtrooper is the number 011 from the factory he was created. Obi-Wan gives him the name (Sounding like) "OH11" and they have a brief bit of dialogue in the film to establish their relationship. At one critical moment in the film, when Palpatine turns all of the Clones against the Jedi, OH11, who is with Kenobi, becomes stiff and robotic - almost like he is being controlled. Kenobi who is realizing what is happening - ignites his lightsaber and strikes 011 across his Chest Plate. The Trooper drops to its knees then falls lifelessly to the ground with his blaster still in hand. there's some moving dialogue to make this scene dreadfully sad. Here is what looks to be the brief dialogue for this scene:

011: "Target Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi, Locked on."

The saber strike happens, the Clone's body drops

Kenobi: "It was always Ben to you my friend...goodbye."

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