The Interpretation of Scripture

[Cam42]

What school of philosophy did you attend?

[quote]I'm afraid that you are once again involved in a fallacy due to diction.[/quote]

There is no such thing. Fallacy of diction....that is rich.

Last time I checked some Protestant Churches say the Nicene Creed.

I know that you don't like hyperlinks, however:

[url="http://www.westwoodlutheran.org/downloads/luth_liturgy.html"]A Guidebook to the Lutheran Liturgy[/url]

see point 14. I will post, considering that you don't "do" hyperlinks.

[quote]Following the Sermon and the Hymn of the Day, we are able to respond once again to the proclamation of God's Word by expressing, as a community of worshipers, our commitment to God and to his teaching. In The Creed we confess the faith of the whole Christian church, and at the same time declare our personal adherence to that faith and our own dedication to the furtherance of God's plan in all the world. We stand as we speak it as a sign of our resolution and readiness to profess and defend our faith.

The word creed comes from the first phrase of the creed as it is spoken in Latin: Credo in unum Deum ... "I believe in one God."

In the very early Christian church, individual bishops or councils often established creeds for use in their own localities. Often these were framed as cautious safeguards against the infringement of "heretical.' beliefs.

But the creeds we use today to declare our fundamental beliefs focus instead upon the perpetuity, unity, and universality of the Christian faith, as it binds all Christians together, and links all who have believed in God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit throughout the centuries.

The insertion of The Creed into the formal order of Sunday worship occurred quite late in the history of the liturgy. Nevertheless, the creeds which we speak today recall a rich historical tradition and share ancient origins.

[b]The Nicene Creed, so named because it was adopted by the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D., has traditionally been associated with the more festive and elaborate celebrations of the church year. Its ecumenical focus emphasizes the universal faith we share in the celebration of Holy Communion.[/b]

Though parts of the Apostle's Creed existed even earlier, it did not evolve into its present form until about 750 A.D. The Apostle's Creed originated as a personal confession of faith for use at Baptism. It emphasizes the importance of personal commitment, and has therefore traditionally served also as a reaffirmation of our Baptismal covenant.[/quote]

catholic and Catholic....time to get learned.....brother Littleles....there is a difference.

Cam

Edited March 23, 2005 by Cam42

[Cam42]

[url="http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/creeds/nicene.htm"]The Nicene Creed[/url]

[quote]* We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.

Many Christians from various backgrounds will want to know, "Precisely what would I be agreeing to if I signed this?"[/quote]

Notice that this is a Protestant website. It is not meant to show that I agree with every precept, but rather to show that even Protestants understand the difference between catholic and Catholic.

This is a concept that is apparently beyond you. I will pray that you get learned brother Littleles.

Cam

[LittleLes]

Hi CAM

I don't recall citing a "Protestant website." But if I have, "I have sinned..." We all know that all Protestant writings are unreliable!

In fact, when I realized that my Encyclopedia Britiannica was edited mainly by Episcopalians, I immediately threw it out!!!

LittleLes

[Jaime]

Littles states the following

[quote]

I'm afraid that you are once again involved in a fallacy due to diction.

catholic -is an adjective meaning universal

Catholic -is a noun or adjective designating is a faith group.

If you are giving the terms new meaning to fit your argument, that is something else, but not an uncommon tactic.[/quote]

Cam responds to show that protestantsproclaim that they are members of a holy catholic (small c) apostolic church when they say speak the Nicene Creed. Thereby making the point that they understand that they are included in the (small c) catholic church.

Littleles responds with


[quote]I don't recall citing a "Protestant website." But if I have, "I have sinned..." We all know that all Protestant writings are unreliable! tongue.gif
[/quote]

Littless you cannot even admit when your wrong about something as obvious as the difference between the Catholic church and catholic church.

Why should we continue to engage you when you cannot admit to an error that doesn't even factor in to what this thread was supposed to be about?

[Cam42]

[quote]I don't recall citing a "Protestant website."[/quote]

You didn't, I did. Boy oh boy....

Even the Protestants think themselves as catholic. Just not Catholic.

Cam

[LittleLes]

Catholics are also members of the catholic (with a small "c") church too, aren't they?

But aren't you getting a bit off topic which is suppose to be the claim that the Catholic church (with a big C) has taught that it always interpretes scripture correctly?

Haven't I shown that in the case of slavery, loaning at interest, and even the motion of the earth, these interpretaions were in error?

Or is chattel slavery still OK, loaning at any interest still a sin, and the earth permanently fixed on its foundation by God never to be moved as claimed in Psalms?

Talk about not answering questions.

LittleLes

But then maybe you realize that there are no legitimate answers that shows that the church (a) never made such an interpretation, or (b) that these interpretations were correct.