comparative analysis

[dairygirl4u2c]

Actually, I'll be the first to debunk my poll. I refuse to believe rationally that a hypo lamp exists. Yet when thinking about whether it exists, I allow for the possibility that it does not exist.

(actually, I might contend that the lamp doesn't ultimately exist, but for the purposes of this analogy and applying it to my poll, I won't go there)


I shoulda let you guys fumble around with responses, but I thought I'd show you that I do realize my polls compared doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Edited March 10, 2005 by dairygirl4u2c

[jasJis]

OMG! Do YOU understand what you write? I sure don't.
The problems with your polls is that they don't have the choice of answers that Catholics would choose.

[God Conquers]

How about....


The Catholic Church is ACTUALLY True, and shows itself to be that way through careful neutral study.

[Apotheoun]

Your polls are formulated in a confused manner.

[Paphnutius]

[quote name='God Conquers' date='Mar 10 2005, 09:22 AM'] How about....


The Catholic Church is ACTUALLY True, and shows itself to be that way through careful neutral study. [/quote]
Just a quick note:
Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est.

Pax et Bonum

[dairygirl4u2c]

[quote]I refuse to believe rationally that a hypo lamp exists[/quote]
hypothetical lamp does not exist*




This poll I realize did not have RC's options. It was meant to indicate that comparing the polls, you have no other choice but to realize that something doesn't add up. It was meant as humor and simply to allow you to think about the two polls comparatively and what it almost indicates.

You can give your insights about how the two polls relate. It does seem odd that someone who won't hold something as not true can at the same time be willing to be neutral when determining if it is true.

But I'm open to having a bad poll in the two polls I'm comparing.

Edited March 10, 2005 by dairygirl4u2c

[God Conquers]

[quote name='Paphnutius' date='Mar 10 2005, 11:00 AM'] Just a quick note:
Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est.

Pax et Bonum [/quote]
God is always charity and love.... yes.

I don't understand...

[Theoketos]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' date='Mar 10 2005, 11:06 AM'] hypothetical lamp does not exist*




This poll I realize did not have RC's options. It was meant to indicate that comparing the polls, you have no other choice but to realize that something doesn't add up. It was meant as humor and simply to allow you to think about the two polls comparatively and what it almost indicates.

You can give your insights about how the two polls relate. It does seem odd that someone who won't hold something as not true can at the same time be willing to be neutral when determining if it is true.

But I'm open to having a bad poll in the two polls I'm comparing. [/quote]
If it was ment as humor then it was poor and uncommunicated humor analogous to the time a fellow boy scount punched me in the face and said that he was just messing/teasing me. This is usually an admition of quilt.

[Kilroy the Ninja]

I find your polls annoying. Sorry.

[dairygirl4u2c]

I've been wrong on this board milliions of times. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong at all. I did mean to leave thte options limited and it was meant to be humorous! I'd like some of your guys thought about the two polls is why I posted it.

[Paphnutius]

Just a word to all of those that find such posts annoying or offensive. I think that one should accept such challanges to your faith with grace and thanks. Let such polls help you to feel out where you are in your faith right now, and where you still need to grow. Do not be irritated that his polls do not leave you an easy answer out, for the world will never leave Christians with an easy op. Take these times to think about how you would answer and why. That they annoy you is a good sign that there is still something that needs to be worked on. Feel that out and go for it. :thinking:

[Paphnutius]

[quote name='God Conquers' date='Mar 10 2005, 02:04 PM'] God is always charity and love.... yes.

I don't understand... [/quote]
Sorry for the late response. That means "Where there is charity and love, there is God." I was making a statement that we need to be charitable.

[MichaelFilo]

[quote name='Paphnutius' date='Mar 10 2005, 06:27 PM'] Just a word to all of those that find such posts annoying or offensive. I think that one should accept such challanges to your faith with grace and thanks. Let such polls help you to feel out where you are in your faith right now, and where you still need to grow. Do not be irritated that his polls do not leave you an easy answer out, for the world will never leave Christians with an easy op. Take these times to think about how you would answer and why. That they annoy you is a good sign that there is still something that needs to be worked on. Feel that out and go for it. :thinking: [/quote]
Read that. Polls are not a challenge to the fiath anymor ethan a fish is. If a pole asks, what is the sum of 3 + 1 and the answers are 1, 3, 5, 7; it isn't a cahllenge to your math skills, it's an absurd poll. A poll can not be a challenge to your Faith' if it is, there is a great lacking on the Faith of the challenged. Only attacks to the Faith and dialouge can be a challenge, and even then not the victor. With the case of polls, they aren't a cahllenge to anyones Faith. At best they are something to think about.


As for Dairy, it is a currious happening; the two can be reconciled; however, and I hope you don't take offense, it is one of those unexplainable things. I'll give it a whirl. The Church is true and for the scholarly Catholic it must always be held as the only complete repository of Truth. it is also the Body of Christ and so must be True or else Christ isn't True. When studying there is no need to take into account tha tthe Church is True, everything a person can study would attest to that in light of everything else. It may even be profitable to the Catholic scholar to study not with jsut a nuetral stance on the things being learned, but to have one that is opposed to the Cahtlic Church so as to question Her and in doing so finding the answers and being better able to defend Her. Knowing She is the Truth makes no differenc eon how we study, all that we learn attests to Her Trueness, if onlyu learned with an open heart.

God bless,
Mikey

[Paphnutius]

[quote name='MichaelFilo' date='Mar 10 2005, 09:50 PM'] Read that. Polls are not a challenge to the fiath anymor ethan a fish is. If a pole asks, what is the sum of 3 + 1 and the answers are 1, 3, 5, 7; it isn't a cahllenge to your math skills, it's an absurd poll. A poll can not be a challenge to your Faith' if it is, there is a great lacking on the Faith of the challenged. Only attacks to the Faith and dialouge can be a challenge, and even then not the victor. With the case of polls, they aren't a cahllenge to anyones Faith. At best they are something to think about.


[/quote]
Perhaps you misunderstood the spirit that was written in. And yes polls can be a challenge to one's faith for it forces one to reconcile the truth with the options that the world gives. The world does not always present the answer you want so you must find where you faith meets the world. If one were to come to you and present you with only those answers it would be a challenge to your faith to find that meeting point. I did not mean to take them in poll form.

Edited March 11, 2005 by Paphnutius

[Paphnutius]

[quote name='MichaelFilo' date='Mar 10 2005, 09:50 PM'] The Church is true and for the scholarly Catholic it must always be held as the only complete repository of Truth. [/quote]
That comment can be disputed. God is all truth, and all truth is in God. However, we as humans, yes even the Church, do not have an exhaustive account or explination of God. For we are finite beings and cannot know an infinite being. So the Church while bearing the Truth, can not have a full or complete knowledge of the truth in this life (or the next for that matter for we still will not be able to know God as He knows Himself). If that were true you would be able to explain to me exactly how the Trinity works. We cannot for as created beings we cannot have an exhaustive explination of all truth.