ICTHUS Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Hey all...I was wonderng... How was Jesus of David's seed? Scripture doesnt tell us that Mary is related to David (I dont think?) and so how do we know that Jesus has Davidic blood in His Human flesh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 When you read the genealogy of St. Joseph, you see that He was a descendendant of David . . . Mary is of the House of David, since her and Joseph would have been of the same house, even before they married . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTHUS Posted October 30, 2003 Author Share Posted October 30, 2003 Ah...um...are you sure, since Joseph was "just" a guy handpicked out of a bunch of guys to look after Mary, that they would have been related? Was the law that one had to marry within ones own kin in effect at that time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 (edited) "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And now, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you will name him Jesus. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his ancestor David. He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end."I believe that tradition holds that Mary was of the royal House of David. http://www.byzantines.net/SaintAthanasius/tract58.htm The Holy Gospel recoreds but a few incidents from the life of the Blessed Virgin Mary. It says nothing about her parentage, her nativity, or her childhood. All such information comes to us from the early tradition of the Church, which was recorded in the middle of the second century (about 175 A.D.) in the apocryphal book, called - the Protoevangelium of St. James. The apocryphal books are those early Christian writings that tell us about certain events from the lives of Jesus and Mary, which are not included in the Gospels. Although the apocryphal writings are not recognized by the Church as authentic inspired works, still, much of what they relate belongs to the tradition of the primitive Church. From the Protoevagelium of St. James we learn that the parents of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Joachim and Anna, were righteous and greatly devoted to God. Her father was a descendant from the royal house of David, while Mary's mother came from the priestly line of Aaron. Edited October 30, 2003 by Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 yeah ive read a couple apocryphal gospels that are kewl.. just not inspired. and i recall them tracing the line to Mary from david. like the Gospel of the Nativity of Mary... i like that one if only we had picked it, the prots wouldn't have such a hard time with Mary. but we recognized it wasn't inspired as we were guided by God. too bad. B) :ph34r: B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Usually kin married within the tribe. Elizabeth, her cousin however, was married to a priest who had to be of the tribe of Levi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroX Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 One of the reasons it is believed that Mary was also of the house of David is that lineage is traced through the mother. You are considered a Jew, if your mom is even if your dad isn't. This isn't exactly "official" Church teaching, but is a little piece of the puzzle. peace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 This is just one reason why it's so great to belong to a Church which is not Sola Scriptura. We've also got tradition!!!! And our traditions do not contradict Scripture. I'm so glad God gave us His Church. :wub: Pax Christi. <>< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Gus Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Kinda makes you want to get out there and make the rest of the world Catholic, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 (edited) Well, you can lead a horse to water, but... You can't make him pee! :lol: Edited October 30, 2003 by Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 QUOTE KINGSHIP OF CHRIST The phrase refers to Jesus' human royalty and divinity. At Matthew 21:9 and Mark 11:10, Christ's kingship is implied by reference to King David, whereas at Luke 19:38 and especially John 12:12-19, Jesus' human link to kingship is explicit. Luke unfolds Jesus' kingship under various aspects of God's sovereign acts of salvation. Thus the human kingship foreshadows Jesus' divinity as supreme Lord and King overall. Gabriel announces God's plan of salvation to Mary - she will give birth to God's divine Son (Lk 1:26-38). The arrival of a royal Son is linked to God's promise to give the Child the throne of David, His ancestor (1:32). In another passage, in which are instructions about the way of salvation for believers (Lk 17:11 - 19:27), Jesus demonstrates His kingship by healing the blind man of Jericho Lk 18:35-43). Christ's kingship includes the reality of absolute power and might but as subordinate to salvation history, which has at its core the reality of service which frees from sin and enlivens with the life of God. UNQUOTE OSV Catholic Encyclopedia, Rev. Peter M.J. Stravinskas, Editor --------------------------------- Sacred Apostolic Tradition and Sacred Scripture both inform the Church. Ave Cor Mariae, Katholikos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 The wise men went into Jerusalem, and said, "Where is He that is born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the east, and are come to worship Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Luke: 26 And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, called Nazareth, 27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David: and the virgin's name was Mary. 32 He shall be great and shall be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father: and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever. Footnotes: Joseph is listed as the house of David, not Mary. Jesus is the awaited Messiah from David's dynastic line. Following Jewish custom, Joseph's legal fatherhood was equivalent to the natural fatherhood in matters of inheritance. Joseph thus confers the privileges of a Davidic descendant upon Jesus. Gabriel's announcement confirms Jesus is the annointed Davidic ruler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 http://www.cin.org/kc58-1.html This is a pretty good explanation of the Genealogy of Christ. From what I can tell . . . there is also some speculation that Matthew is giving us Joseph's lineage while Luke is giving us Mary's Lineage . . . that's why there are only 3 names in common in the two geneologies . . . And here is St. Augustine's reply to Faustus the Manichean who is making the claim that Jesus was not of the line of David: http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/140623.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 some ppl would call him "son of Mary" (which might have been intended as an insult, but Jesus prolly wouldn't of taken it as an insult any more than i would take "mama's boy" as an insult to me) and "son of David" <MATH! Jesus + son of Mary=son of Mary + Son of David Jesus = Son of David err. that prolly didnt make sense i was never any good at math Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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