Bill Maher Says Christians Have Neurological

[Paladin D]

[url="http://www.afa.net/hbobillmaher.asp"]http://www.afa.net/hbobillmaher.asp[/url]

Joe Scarborough is a Christian and a conservative, most likely he countered Bill Maher's obnoxious claims.

[desertwoman]

This is just proof of how Christians are going to be persucted even more in the up coming years.

But Maher is laking in his facts since Canada and Europe still have millions of believers of any faith.

He only makes me stand firm and love my God even more.

[Brother Adam]

Takes all kinds of morons to make the world go round.

[Guest Eremite]

Bill Maher is a really sad man.

I would just LOVE to see him tackle the Summa Theologica. We'll see who the "unlightened" ones are.

[burnsspivey]

[quote name='desertwoman' date='Feb 23 2005, 12:21 PM'] This is just proof of how Christians are going to be persucted even more in the up coming years.
[/quote]
Everyone is persecuted in their own mind.

[quote]
But Maher is laking in his facts since Canada and Europe still have millions of believers of any faith.  [/quote]

His point, though it's hard to tell from the quote, is that the US Government has less in common with European and Canadian Governments than the others. It's an amazing thing to me that even with an overwhelmingly christian population, governments in Europe remain secular while ours somehow manages to sneak religion in at every turn.

[burnsspivey]

[quote]Had Maher said such things about homosexuals, he would have been immediately fired. But because he was speaking of Christians, his bigotry was acceptable to HBO[/quote]

Of course, the inherent difference between homosexuals as a class and christians as a class is that homosexuals don't believe in imaginary friends.




Disclaimer: That was a joke. I know there are many people on this site who would not see it as such, but that is how it was meant.

[Guest Eremite]

[quote]It's an amazing thing to me that even with an overwhelmingly christian population, governments in Europe remain secular while ours somehow manages to sneak religion in at every turn.[/quote]

Because religion is a fundamental element to the America as intended by its founders. George Washington noted this in his farewell address:

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."

Europe, too, is Christian in its roots. Unfortunately, it has largely apostasized. To quote historian Hilaire Belloc, "Either Europe will return to the faith, or it will perish. Europe is the faith; The faith is Europe."

[Socrates]

The population of Europe, by and large, is much less religious than that of America.

Anyway, who cares what Bill Maher says?

[burnsspivey]

[quote name='Eremite' date='Feb 23 2005, 12:30 PM']
Because religion is a fundamental element to the America as intended by its founders. George Washington noted this in his farewell address:

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."

Europe, too, is Christian in its roots. Unfortunately, it has largely apostasized. To quote historian Hilaire Belloc, "Either Europe will return to the faith, or it will perish. Europe is the faith; The faith is Europe." [/quote]
Religion may be a fundamental element of America, but it is [i]not[/i] a fundamental element of American Government.

[quote][T]he government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion...[/quote] -- From a Treaty signed by George Washington

[Melchisedec]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 23 2005, 12:31 PM']
Anyway, who cares what Bill Maher says? [/quote]
For once I agree with socrates.

[thessalonian]

Ah, he's crazy.

[Norseman82]

Better to enter Heaven with a neurological disorder than Gehenna without any....

[burnsspivey]

[quote name='Norseman82' date='Feb 23 2005, 01:22 PM'] Better to enter Heaven with a neurological disorder than Gehenna without any.... [/quote]
Ooh, do I get to fight Baatezu or Tanar'ri? Wait, you aren't....


Nevermind. *goes back to her DnD books*

[Guest Eremite]

[quote]Religion may be a fundamental element of America, but it is not a fundamental element of American Government.[/quote]

Thankfully, the American government exists for the people, and not the other way around. It is for this reason we have numerous amendments to the Constitution.

The Supreme Court said in 1891:

"Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian ... this is a religious people. This is historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation ... we find everywhere a clear definition of the same truth ... this is a Christian nation." (Church of the Holy Trinity vs. United States, 143 US 457, 36 L ed 226, Justice Brewer)"

Now, the Treaty of Tripoli is correct in the sense that the American government does not offer any formal worship to God, or answer to any formal religious institution; furthermore, it holds religious liberty in high esteem. However, to deny the Christian foundation of America's laws and history is to divorce them from any objective analysis.

Edited February 23, 2005 by Eremite

[thessalonian]

No different that our illustrious former governor, Jesse Ventura, saying that Christians are "feeble and weak minded". Hey, wait a second, we are and we know it. That's why we need Christ. These guys might be on to something.