jasJis Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Assemblies of God 16 Fundamental Truths It always easier then one thinks. The above is a link to the Assemblies of God official main church site. This lists the 16 Fundamental Beliefs or Truths. Baptists would call them "Distinctives". Note that on their home page they proudly proclaim they are the same as the ones originally declared in 1916. They can't be proud of man made traditions, can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Uhh.... hate to break it for ya... but I was baptised in the Holy Spirit before I was baptised in water. I donno where you got that 'logic' from? that's great Freaky Chick, I was just pointing out a flaw in the prevoiusly posted 16 tenants. So, you too then dissagree with this tenant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted October 29, 2003 Author Share Posted October 29, 2003 (edited) I have read a number of posts on this site stating that Protestants have no understanding of Catholic doctrine and then I read this load of absolute rubbish. If you are to accuse anyone of having specific beliefs, then please have the decency to do your research properly and not just make vague, unjustifiable claims and expect others to accept them as facts. I almost immediately after this post, posted their 16 Doctrines . . . funny how that wasn't given credit! LOL . . . oh well, I guess we only get ZERO credit where at least half-credit is due . . . By the way, bud . . . check out their webpage and see that the things Anna said are all found in position papers and are deeply held tenets of the Assemblies of God, except for maybe the alcohol one . . . I can't find that one . . . but I do know that the AOG was a big proponent of the American Temperance movement. Some of the anti-drinking stuff might be holdovers. However, my AOG friend's family drinks beer . . . so I don't think it's universally held. Edited October 29, 2003 by BLAZEr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted October 29, 2003 Author Share Posted October 29, 2003 I just noticed something funny . . . notice how we all want, even our Protestant Brothers and Sisters, to have clearly defined doctrine, good clear morality, universally held positions, and unchanging teachings throughout time . . . It's almost as if we wanted them to be One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic! And we do . . . because that's what Christ wants too. Still, it seems to me that the only Church that can claim all of those qualities is . . . well, A WHOLE LOT older than 100 years. From the AoG website: You may be wondering where we came from, and you'll be glad to know we've been around a while. The Assemblies of God has its roots in a religious revival that began in the late 1800's and swept into this century with widespread repetition of biblical spiritual experiences. That's a while? Man . . . by that Standard, the Catholic Church has been around well, downright forever . . . at least Forever that people have been calling themselves Christians . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 That's wrong too... Freaky objected to my statement concerning the AOG that "No speaking in tongues = no Holy Spirit = no salvation." Tell us, then, how one "gets saved" in the AOG (or any other Protestant denomination) without the Holy Spirit? And is it not one of their principles that the manifestaton of the presence of the HS is through "speaking in tongues"? Paz y bien, Katholikos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Benny Hinn is a heretic. He believes that because Adam had dominion over all the creatures on Earth, he could fly and breathe underwater, just like birds and fish - because he had dominion over them. Benny Hinn is simply taking the Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura at face value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 (edited) The Assemblies of God's official position on abstinence from alcoholic drink can be found at http://www.agncn.org/documents/abstinence.pdf Here is just the beginning: This statement on abstinence was adopted by the General Presbytery of the Assemblies of God on August 6, 1985. The General Council of the Assemblies of God has historically opposed the consumption of alcohol in any form. Early documents of the church declare, without reservation or compromise, a position of total abstinence. In more recent years, however, this mark of separation from the world and this token of dedicated service to God has been questioned by some. Yet the continued effective work of reaching the lost and of challenging all believers to be always filled with the Holy Spirit is seriously jeopardized by a careless attitude concerning the consumption of alcoholic beverages. For two reasons we urge all believers to avoid the Satanic tool of alcohol which destroys lives, damns souls, and blights society: (1) A studied review of the Scriptures affirms a stern warning against intoxicating drink and a call to separation from this evil for the purpose of better service to God and mankind; and (2) Current social abuses and the public outrage over the high cost of alcohol in terms of human misery, death, and destruction of property cry out with urgency for the church of Jesus Christ to oppose firmly any use whatsoever of a beverage which so insidiously afflicts and binds the bodies and minds of men and women. No, I didn't just make it up. Yes, I've done research. Pax Christi. <>< Edited October 29, 2003 by Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Satanic Tool. Does that include the wine jesus drank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 It would appear so, in the mind of the A of G. I would have a very difficult time reconciling that one! (Of course, they probably just think that Jesus only drank unfermented grape juice, which we know was not the case.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I have read a number of posts on this site stating that Protestants have no understanding of Catholic doctrine and then I read this load of absolute rubbish. If you are to accuse anyone of having specific beliefs, then please have the decency to do your research properly and not just make vague, unjustifiable claims and expect others to accept them as facts. Oooooooooooops! I do see where I made an error. I forgot to capitalize "Mass." My bad! :D Unshackled: The burden of proof that I am wrong must be upon you. Ask members of the A of G, and research their church documents. If I have misstated anything, you are certainly welcome to clarify and correct it, but calling it a load of rubbish without any corrections convinces no one, especially me. Show me I'm wrong! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 they really twist scripture, from my reading i get that one should not just be a drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Tis true; according to the documents of the Assemblies of God, there is absolutely no differentiation between a glass of wine with dinner, a cold beer at a cookout, and getting oneself totally wasted. Once you take a sip of demon liquor, you've sinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 (edited) Tis true; according to the documents of the Assemblies of God, there is absolutely no differentiation between a glass of wine with dinner, a cold beer at a cookout, and getting oneself totally wasted. Once you take a sip of demon liquor, you've sinned. Somebody ought to say to them, "Well, when you got married, it's good that you didn't invite Jesus to your wedding; otherwise he might have done what he did at Cana!" :lol: Edited October 29, 2003 by Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Somebody ought to say to them, "Well, when you got married, it's good that you didn't invite Jesus to your wedding; otherwise he might have done what he did at Cana!" Hahahahah! That was a good one! I wonder too.... Is caugh medicine "demon" liquid! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulls Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 i'm staying far away from here call it a "near occasion for sin" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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