Gay Marriage

[vianney]

[url="http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050222/2005-02-22T201215Z_01_L22608092_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-POPE-BOOK-DC.html"]http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050222/...PE-BOOK-DC.html[/url]


Well what do yall think?

[curtins]

he's absolutly right

Edited February 22, 2005 by curtins

[Crusader_4]

His Holliness is completley correct.

[Ash Wednesday]

I get the sense that the press is twisting things around to make the pope look like some ignorant, hateful man.

But most people are too dumb to even attempt to wrap their heads around the entire message he is communicating.

[Socrates]

The Pope continues to speak the truth.

[Myles Domini]

From the news report I could not decipher whether the Pope had explicitly referred to Gay Marriage as part of the ideology of evil or simply placed it that title in broad terms. Either way, its partly irrelevant since the effect is pretty much the same. As we all acknowledge according to natural law that which falls short of its potential is objectively evil. There is a privation of some good that should be present and is not. Marriage is a natural sacrament that has existed even before the fall of man and it is clear to the reason of all human beings that the ends to which is oriented is at once 'unitive' and 'fruitful'. A Homosexual marriage cannot be at once 'unitive' and 'fruitful' there is thus a privation of some good that should be present and objectively then a homosexual marriage can be called evil. It would far from surprise me if this is what His Holiness means. After all its Catholic teaching and always has been. I doubt his references were as sensational as reuters makes them out to be but His Holiness isnt the type to try and obscure the constant message of the Catholic faith. I can readily believe he did refer in some way to homosexual marriage as an evil and, naturally, he was right to do so. Its not nasty its just in accordance with Scripture and traditional Catholic philosophy. Once more His Holiness is calling those who have homosexual tendencies to embrace the mysterious cross they carry on they bear like those brave members of the Courage Apostolate. While, simultaneously calling us to do our part to evangelise society and prevent occassions of sin appearing in the lives of those brethren of ours who must be martyrs for God as a witness to the culture of death.

[Myles Domini]

From the news report I could not decipher whether the Pope had explicitly referred to Gay Marriage as part of the ideology of evil or simply placed it that title in broad terms. Either way, its partly irrelevant since the effect is pretty much the same. As we all acknowledge according to natural law that which falls short of its potential is objectively evil. There is a privation of some good that should be present and is not. Marriage is a natural sacrament that has existed even before the fall of man and it is clear to the reason of all human beings that the ends to which is oriented is at once 'unitive' and 'fruitful'. A Homosexual marriage cannot be at once 'unitive' and 'fruitful' there is thus a privation of some good that should be present and objectively then a homosexual marriage can be called evil. It would far from surprise me if this is what His Holiness means. After all its Catholic teaching and always has been. I doubt his references were as sensational as reuters makes them out to be but His Holiness isnt the type to try and obscure the constant message of the Catholic faith. I can readily believe he did refer in some way to homosexual marriage as an evil and, naturally, he was right to do so. Its not nasty its just in accordance with Scripture and traditional Catholic philosophy. Once more His Holiness is calling those who have homosexual tendencies to embrace the mysterious cross they carry on they bear like those brave members of the Courage Apostolate. Moreover, simultaneously His Holiness is calling us to do our part to evangelise society and prevent occassions of sin appearing in the lives of those brethren of ours who must be martyrs for God as a witness to the culture of death.

[burnsspivey]

More ([color=red]edited by foundsheep[/color]).




Hey, you asked what I thought.

Edited February 24, 2005 by foundsheep

[Socrates]

[quote name='burnsspivey' date='Feb 23 2005, 12:32 PM'] More beautiful knowledge from such a wonderful man.




Hey, you asked what I thought. [/quote]
If you've got nothing intelligent or meaningful to say, [color=red]edited[/color]!

Edited February 25, 2005 by foundsheep

[burnsspivey]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 23 2005, 12:39 PM'] If you've got nothing intelligent or meaningful to say, shut up! [/quote]
[quote]The Pope continues to speak the truth. [/quote]

I could say the same to you.

[Ash Wednesday]

[quote name='burnsspivey' date='Feb 23 2005, 12:32 PM'] doing gods work on this earth has made him a  tired man.




Hey, you asked what I thought. [/quote]
That's true... he's tired and he's old.

But he's also tired for good reason and has done a lot more in his life than you could probably hope for.

And me for that matter.

God bless!

Edited February 24, 2005 by foundsheep

[Myles Domini]

[quote]A pontiff like no other!.[/quote]

Would you mind, for the sake of good old philosophical debate, mind telling us how you can maintain this position. I'm not saying this to be provocative, honestly. I am genuinely interested in hearing what you have to say, maybe you can give us an angle we're not considering?

Edited February 24, 2005 by foundsheep

[Paladin D]

[quote name='burnsspivey' date='Feb 23 2005, 01:32 PM'] Hes gods number one man.




Hey, you asked what I thought. [/quote]
Let's see if you make as much of a social impact as him, or at least last past 80 years of age.

Edited February 24, 2005 by foundsheep

[1337 k4th0l1x0r]

[quote name='burnsspivey' date='Feb 23 2005, 11:32 AM'] I could never be as holy as this man.




Hey, you asked what I thought. [/quote]
More tripe from a bitter anti-Catholic.

Edited February 24, 2005 by foundsheep

[MC Just]

[quote name='Crusader_4' date='Feb 23 2005, 12:41 AM'] His Holliness is completley correct. [/quote]
COMPLETELY!