drewmeister2 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 (edited) I recently learned about the Donation of Constantine. I heard that somewhere in the 1400's, Rome found out it was forged, but still continued to claim power from it. Can anyone explain to me this situation? Is this true? Edited February 20, 2005 by drewmeister2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 You will not find much searching for a Donation of Charlemagne. You mean the Donation of Constantine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmeister2 Posted February 20, 2005 Author Share Posted February 20, 2005 (edited) Oops, yes, thank you! I will edit the original post. Edited February 20, 2005 by drewmeister2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelFilo Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 There is an article on Newadvent.org Much too long to hold my interest, but you may like it. God bless, Mikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 a forged document, discovered by the church, revealed and admitted by the church, ,doesn't mean it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Wasn't it the donation of Pepin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Pepin the Short, the first official Carolingian King, (annointed King of the Franks by Pope Stephen II in 751) the son of Charles Martel ("Charles the Hammer" responsible for halting the Muslim invasion at the Battle of Poitiers-Tours in 732), gave the Papacy what has become known as the "Donation of Pepin" - a formal recognition by Pepin of a territory in the center of the Italian peninsula governed by the pope. From this would slowly grow the Papal States, a region ruled by the pope. The Papal States would remain important in Italian polities until the late nineteenth century, and even today the Vatican, a vestigial remain of a once greater papal territory, is an autonomous polity within Italy. In the 740's, the papal chancery produced a document called the "Donation of Constatine" by which that first Christian emperor allegedly sent the pope the imperial crown and ceded to him governance over Rome, the Italian peninsula, and all the West. The pope was said to have returned the crown but kept the power of governance. Hence, popes could regard the Carolingians as subordinates - stewards who exercised political authority by delegation from the papacy. The "Donation of Constatine" is perhaps the most famous forged document in history. Source: [i]Medival Europe: A Short History[/i]by C.Warren Hollister and Judith M. Bennett, 9th Edition, 2002 McGraw Hill. Page 107. I have a test on this monday. yay for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmasser777 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I didn't know Christ Sanctioned this. Must have been a law in-between the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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