Catholic Social Teaching

[God Conquers]

I should think that the state would have a right to tax some of your income, seeing as how you live under the protection of the governement and ostensibly benefit from police, roads, railways, fire fighters and garbage collectors. Unless that's all private....

[Matt Black]

So what's the difference with property?

Yours in Christ

Matt

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 15 2005, 09:19 PM'] I don't think Catholics will much disagree on these principles themselves. There is much disagreement, however, on the best way to acheive these goals. [/quote]
Bingo.

[Guest Aluigi]

Because everyone has the right to own their own home and that which they use to produce their income (own their own business). That part ought to be private so that an individual can live. Producing, selling, and buying are all public actions and thus the government has the right to use such things for the necessity of the government of the public.

GC, it is only placed in the middle when made to conform to the modern notion of left and right. But if you look at the modern middle where you are placing it, there is nothing related to it there, it is out of place. In the overall scheme of left and right that transcends our present modern times and sees it as a whole, distributism is certainly the more right and more conservative notion. That's only when you break free of thinking modern notion of left and right, because modern right is attached to big business and private property for some. Technically, when you go even further right, it ultimately supports small businesses (you can see that somewhat with a bit of republican rhetoric about small business and a "society of ownership" from this year how they see that as the backbone of our economy). It's way further right than any "right" now.

I've been readin a bunch of Belloc and Chesterton stuff recently.

Anyway, didn't mean to hijack.. but yeah maybe I did since the first post in itself would draw no real debate.

[BullnaChinaShop]

[quote name='Matt Black' date='Feb 16 2005, 12:18 PM'] So what's the difference with property?

Yours in Christ

Matt [/quote]
One if employed continually aquires income which is taxed as it is acquired, but one only buys a given piece of property once and yet pays a yearly property tax on it.

[Guest Aluigi]

that too, of course.

[Guest Aluigi]

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"For there is no authority except from God" Romans 13:1

[MC Just]

[quote name='Raphael' date='Feb 16 2005, 12:29 PM'] Bingo. [/quote]
Yeah what he said. Bingo

[Guest Aluigi]

What's with all the Bingo? If we could all just discover Christendom we'd discover the traditional way these principals are to be upheld, the one way that truley works. Read Belloc and Chesterton to discover how Christendom would deal with it. Sorry to burst the modern political bubble, but those are the only ideas that will really work

Edited February 16, 2005 by Aluigi

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Matt Black' date='Feb 16 2005, 04:28 AM'] Interesting. Since governments help create and protect the conditions which foster the creation of private property, do they not have the right to tax that property?

Yours in Christ

Matt [/quote]
It is important to remember that it is an innate right of the human person to own private property; and moreover, that it is the duty of a government to protect and defend man's inherent rights in this area. A government that fails to recognize the rights flowing from human nature, is nothing more than a form of tyranny.