DNC SEEKS TO WOO CATHOLICS

[Jaime]

Fleetwood Mac.... HUGE democrats

[JP2Iloveyou]

I am noticing a couple of things here. The country is becoming more and more pro-life and conservative. Regardless of what the dems did, they couldn't win this year. They absolutely got trounced. They lost nearly every major Senate race (excpet for Ken Salazar in Colorado, who is a conservative democrat anyway!), they lost seats in the House, and they lost the presidency. George W. Bush got more votes for president than anyone else in the history of our country.

Secondly, I am at a wonderful seminary that loves the Church, the Holy Father, and is not content with buying in to all the dissent and liberalism that infiltrated the American church in the 70s and 80s. Those days are over folks. The men at my seminary are very pro-life and when we are ordained, we will speak about it. The same is going on at most of the seminaries across the U.S. The next generation of priests will not be afraid to preach about this from the pulpit. So, what does this mean? It means the millions of Catholics who crossed party lines and voted for Bush last year will increase greatly in the future. Bush won the Catholic vote 51-49% and 55-45% among Catholics who attend Mass weekly. That number is only going to go up folks. The democrats had better figure this out or they will be in for another rude awakening in '06.

BTW, in '06, Sen. Mark Dayton of Minnesota, a liberal democrat, is resigning his seat and will not seek reelection. Word on the street is that Mark Kennedy will run for that seat. He is currently a Congressman and is cut from the same cloth as Rick Santorum. Kennedy is a daily Mass going, conservative Catholic Republican. He even started a congressional rosary.

[Norseman82]

Democrats for Life have been around for at least 20 years, to my knowledge, so this is nothing new.

[JP2Iloveyou]

yeah, and the DNC ordered the link to Democrats for Life to be removed from the party website. Can we please be honest here folks? The democratic party as it stands right now is not pro-life.

[rachael]

[quote name='MC Just' date='Feb 15 2005, 08:51 AM'] “On Saturday, Howard Dean said, ‘We have to remind Catholic Americans that the social mission of the Democratic Party is [b]almost exactly[/b] the social mission of the Catholic Church.’ [/quote]

[Jaime]

[quote]. Bush won the Catholic vote 51-49% and 55-45% among Catholics who attend Mass weekly. That number is only going to go up folks.[/quote]

Let's be clear though, Bush is pro choice. His views are better than Kerry's but he is still pro choice

[sweetpea316]

Sigh...gotta love politics...
This is kinda off topic and all, but this past Tuesday, the Social Work majors got to go to Austin, TX for this program called 'Student Day at the Legislature' And wow...it was awesome. We got to go into the capitol and talk to representatives and senators about the issues that are most important to us. So...of course..I brought up the issues of abortion and gay 'marriage'. The senator I talked to was great and actually had the same views on it. (but then again, this is TX where there is a majority of conservatives in office) But yeah, its hard to be in the field of social work, where you're working to end social injustice and discrimination, but then you have these controversial issues that go against everything that you believe! But..I'm not gonna budge. I figure they can use some people like me. Sorry for the rambling! I just thought I'd share that! God bless.

Through Him,
Rebecca

[crusader1234]

Lets get together anr party

[argent_paladin]

Nothing would make me happier than for the Dems to truly embrace pro-lifers. Although I think that would be a major blow to the Republicans, I am a Catholic and pro-life first and a Republican second. But, I don't think it will ever happen. A good third of Americans still are strongly pro-abortion and the Dems wouldn't want to lose that group. Plus, the elites and moneymen of the Dems are the ones who tend to be most pro-abortion. They would lose their Hollywood crowd, many student activists, etc, etc. Though they would attract a lot of votes, they would lose a lot of funding, and funding is what makes the world go round. Theoretically a third party could form and cause the demise of the Democratic party. The dems are in a death embrace with the pro-abortion lobby.

[AtheistAlex]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 15 2005, 02:31 PM'] As a hard-core conservative, I don't like anything about the modern Democratic party. However, I think it would be great if more Democrats (and Republicans) became pro-life.

However, I just don't see this happening in the Democratic Party. It seems that abortion "rights," gay "rights," and the like has become the ideological core of the party. These people with a radical leftist social agenda seem to have become the core voters in the Party, and the Party seems to be wedded to their agenda. [/quote]
I would definitely not embrace a Democratic Party that just ran from pro-choice positions, to grab votes. Nope, I just might go Green or go up the political ranks and make my own party if that happens, but the govt. regulating a woman's body? They better be for a lot of other things I like, and I am not the only one on this, for sure.

Radical leftist? How do you define that? It seems that the 'center' of the country is actually far-right-of-center as compared to most of the rest of the known world, so the Democrats are really pretty centrist. Like a British person online once told me, "The Republicans are like our conservative Party, and the Democrats are like our Conservative Party."

[argent_paladin]

The government already regulates a woman's body when the FDA quashes certain drugs as unsafe, or when the DEA says that you can't smoke marijuana or when the government says you can't use your body to suffocate someone or you can't use your body to rape someone or you can't use your own body to run onto a freeway or you can't use your own body to tresspass, etc. That is just tired rhetoric. You don't have to be a theist to be against abortion.
Also, yes, the Dems are quite radical on this subject. America has the most liberal laws concerning abortion, far more liberal than Britian, by the way. And in fact, i would say that both the Republican and Democrats are far more liberal in many ways that either the Labour or Conservative parties since they grew out of the Revolutionary war tradition of Locke and Rosseau. Americans are committed to individual liberty which is the heart of liberalism. Britian's parties both have reactionary totalitarian aspects to them, of elites governing every aspect of the citizens' lives.
European conservativism is very different than American conservatism. American conservatives are not the party of blood, soil and aristocratic privilege. That is why neoconservatives can spring from radical Marxists of the 60s.

[Paladin D]

[quote name='JP2Iloveyou' date='Feb 18 2005, 01:26 PM'] George W. Bush got more votes for president than anyone else in the history of our country. [/quote]
You sure? It wasn't that large of a margin.

(I support Bush, just to let you know)

[Guest Aluigi]

no, that's true. it's because there was such a high turnout. As a matter of fact, John Kerry got the second most amount of votes for any presidential candidate in American history. people are polarized and actually willing to get off their lazy butts and vote about it.

[crusader1234]

Unfortunately for JK, it was the wrong group of people

PS - all of you that say that democrats can't be pro-life can forgive my unpleasant disposition

[Ash Wednesday]

I would love to see more pro-life democrats. The republican party no longer ostracizes their pro-choice wing, so the dems need to stop ostracising the ones that are pro-life.


Meh. I think in 2008 I'm going to vote independantly for Joe Schriner. The rising stars in the Republican party aren't proving to be much different than the dems.