rachael Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:25 PM'] yeah...I changed my mind in mid post, but rather than erase it I just posted it...is that lazy? [/quote] yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azriel Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 As long as there are free tacos, so very tasty and good for you,, PM is okey dokey by me. oh...and cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezic Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 the debate rages. I am done. I wish that unity and love would have prevailed ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 [quote name='spathariossa' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:22 PM'] I'm not a homosexual you imbecile. [/quote] It doesnt matter "the Truth and meaning of human sexuality" post applies to you also.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spathariossa Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:24 PM'] that's fine but you don't need to call people names, and you don't need to lose your patience. Trust me, you are doing more harm than good here. We feel for you Spatha, and we want to help you. Your issue is one that the Church hasn't dealt with yet. All we can do is pray for you until we are taught about this by somebody with authority! [/quote] You say this and then you say things like what Socrates said implying that you have the authority. How could I not lose my patience when I have to go in circles with you people on the most basic of issues? This is intolerable. I'm sick of getting the "you shove it in our faces" line of carp from people who bring it up themselves. I'm more than sick of being called a homosexual or people telling me I have SSA. But no matter how often I explain it they turn around and pretend I never did. Like when I say I was born trans. People freak out and tell me that my daddy didn't love me enough or that it was some nonsensical environmental cause. I'm the person with the disorder, I think I'd know best. But somehow, having the disorder renders my opinion useless. How can you expect me to have any patience left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azriel Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Really Jez ... there really isn't any debate about whether PM is good for teens or not....that has been pretty much made clear ...everyone seems to be in favor of that ... its the other issue that is raging ... So if we get back to the point...PM is a great place for teens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachael Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 [quote name='Azriel' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:26 PM'] As long as there are free tacos, so very tasty and good for you,, PM is okey dokey by me. oh...and cake. [/quote] tacos, so very tasty and good for you,. ew. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 ok im gone for real this time.. I'll be praying for you Spath... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezic Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 the original issue died. This is definitely sad. Phatmass was a great place, if people see this i don't think it will help any. It wouldn't matter if the church had a definitive teaching, the people need to overcome their own emotions and will and just lay everything at the base of the cross. that hasn't happened i hope it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 How did this turn into a debate that doesn't even relate to the topic? I think we need a split and lock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachael Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:31 PM'] How did this turn into a debate that doesn't even relate to the topic? I think we need a split and lock... [/quote] yup. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 The topic is whether Phatmass is good for teens or not. Stick to the topic or the thread goes bye byes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachael Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:38 PM'] The topic is whether Phatmass is good for teens or not. Stick to the topic or the thread goes bye byes. [/quote] Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clementina Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 [quote name='spathariossa' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:28 PM'] You say this and then you say things like what Socrates said implying that you have the authority. How could I not lose my patience when I have to go in circles with you people on the most basic of issues? This is intolerable. I'm sick of getting the "you shove it in our faces" line of carp from people who bring it up themselves. I'm more than sick of being called a homosexual or people telling me I have SSA. But no matter how often I explain it they turn around and pretend I never did. Like when I say I was born trans. People freak out and tell me that my daddy didn't love me enough or that it was some nonsensical environmental cause. I'm the person with the disorder, I think I'd know best. But somehow, having the disorder renders my opinion useless. How can you expect me to have any patience left? [/quote] Hi I'm new to this and felt then need to respond to you on behalf of my Husband McJust. I've read your post and the movie Too Wong Fu comes to mind when Wesley Snipes character mentions "Your approval is not required nor desired but we will take you acceptance." I have made this my motto. And you know what spathariossa if you want to stick your little pinky up in the air and say that what you do is not a sin, Hey go for it. But when you start calling my husband an inbacile your not only insulting him you insulting me for I would not have married this man you have discribed. One might question your bitterness and anger to your additude and you yourself. Whether you are transwhatever learn to love yourself. Whether you believe that your not shoving thing's in our faces people like you do. I work in the Beauty industry I've personally met dUSt on many occasions when him and McJust get together for projects and events. He's a nice guy and knows that it might not be lady like for me to defend my husband but best believe I'm gonna bring it. As for the question at hand all I know is what McJust tells me and now by reading some post and I'm on the fence with an answer for this question. It can be dangerous and not at times. I work in the Beauty Industry I work at a Spa and Salon I work with 2 gay men and have had my share of shoving their beliefs down my throat. By then saying that the Catholic Church is not for me that it's for single and married couples meaning that He had no place in the Catholic Church. To me there in no such thing as "born that way" that's bunk. God makes no mistakes and by saying being born that way is a slap in the face for God and for shame. Transgender is just another excuse for wanting to do what YOU want and not doing the RIGHT thing which is to fight those urges with prayer and restraint. This is not a threat but a promise call my Husband anymore names and I will personally speak to dUSt. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spathariossa Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 [quote name='Clementina' date='Feb 7 2005, 09:16 PM'] Hi I'm new to this and felt then need to respond to you on behalf of my Husband McJust. I've read your post and the movie Too Wong Fu comes to mind when Wesley Snipes character mentions "Your approval is not required nor desired but we will take you acceptance." I have made this my motto. And you know what spathariossa if you want to stick your little pinky up in the air and say that what you do is not a sin, Hey go for it. But when you start calling my husband an inbacile your not only insulting him you insulting me for I would not have married this man you have discribed. One might question your bitterness and anger to your additude and you yourself. Whether you are transwhatever learn to love yourself. Whether you believe that your not shoving thing's in our faces people like you do. I work in the Beauty industry I've personally met dUSt on many occasions when him and McJust get together for projects and events. He's a nice guy and knows that it might not be lady like for me to defend my husband but best believe I'm gonna bring it. As for the question at hand all I know is what McJust tells me and now by reading some post and I'm on the fence with an answer for this question. It can be dangerous and not at times. I work in the Beauty Industry I work at a Spa and Salon I work with 2 gay men and have had my share of shoving their beliefs down my throat. By then saying that the Catholic Church is not for me that it's for single and married couples meaning that He had no place in the Catholic Church. To me there in no such thing as "born that way" that's bunk. God makes no mistakes and by saying being born that way is a slap in the face for God and for shame. Transgender is just another excuse for wanting to do what YOU want and not doing the RIGHT thing which is to fight those urges with prayer and restraint. This is not a threat but a promise call my Husband anymore names and I will personally speak to dUSt. Cheers, [/quote] Look, this is me being charitable. I'm sorry if I offended you or your husband, I was just a little irritated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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