Is Phatmass Dangerous To Teens?

[jezic]

[quote name='dUSt' date='Feb 8 2005, 05:29 PM'] I like the catechism idea. In fact, this phorum use to have a "catechism" button that allowed you to automatically post catechism quotes by typing in the paragraph number.

I'm going to bring that function back soon. [/quote]
good deal.

My point there was (to clarify it further) then there would always be the authentic church teaching at the top so no one would need to be confused cause there is the little helper right there.

[Iacobus]

[quote name='popestpiusx' date='Feb 7 2005, 10:41 PM'] It's also pretty beaver dam annoying when people refuse to look at scientific evidence against evolution, of which there is a plentitude, as well as those who seem to think that science is the judge of the Faith rather than the other way around. Perhaps if we were all enlightened and self declared intellectuals we could understand. I suppose I'm just a willfully ignorant small minded dote. But this is not the place for that discussion. [/quote]
I would have PMed this if I could, but I can't so I am going to haul it up. My point wasn't so much that I don't like anti-e's but rather that I don't like anti-e's that do so just beacuse their reading of the Bible says God did it so it must be. If they base their disagreement in sound science, while I don't always agree, that is a much different case.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='dUSt' date='Feb 8 2005, 03:29 PM'] I like the catechism idea. In fact, this phorum use to have a "catechism" button that allowed you to automatically post catechism quotes by typing in the paragraph number.

I'm going to bring that function back soon. [/quote]
i really liked that function. i hope you can bring it back.

[Totus Tuus]

I was SO disappointed with the thread bashing what Rome said about human sexuality (in reference to sex change operations). There are some posters (who will remain unnamed) who were blatantly agains what Holy Mother Church teaches on some issues, and yet do not have "HELLO, I DO NOT REP. THE CHURCH" under their names. That is so tragic, because people looking into the Faith or not totally knowledgable of it may think that those people had legit. claims to defend their own ideals.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant. I suppose it is to a certain extent. But I am still debating leaving PM because of that. I particularly like Vocation Sation; it HAS helped me to find support in my vocation. But I question PM's overall faithfulness, I suppose.

[Good Friday]

[quote name='dUSt']I like 1 out of every 100 of GF's posts.[/quote]
That sounds about right.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='cathqat' date='Feb 8 2005, 06:26 PM'] I think that dUst [i]already[/i] does a good job keeping the phorum on track. [/quote]
Quit taking me out of context. I am not disputing the job dust does. I think you are well aware of that. He does a fine job. I have already said that, and said that his arguments for allowing some of the material that he chose to allow were fairly convincing. The argument is with your assertion that it is not dusts responsibility to monitor the content of this site. Both dust and I have taken issue with this assertion. I shall not respond to you again (at least not in this particular discussion), as I am tired of repeating myself.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='Iacobus' date='Feb 8 2005, 07:13 PM'] I would have PMed this if I could, but I can't so I am going to haul it up. My point wasn't so much that I don't like anti-e's but rather that I don't like anti-e's that do so just beacuse their reading of the Bible says God did it so it must be. If they base their disagreement in sound science, while I don't always agree, that is a much different case. [/quote]
Thank you for the clarification.

[jezic]

i thought of another thing, since there is already this resistance thing in the 20 and under. You could make that a forum that has a warning or requires a password or something.

Or something like that .....

[Micheal5403]

I think you should leave Phatmass just the way it is, Dust. One of my major pet peeves is when religious people never discuss any real world, relevent to everyday life, topics (other than like abortion) and want everything to be "protected". Because do you know what, the world isn't a protected place and teens need to be as prepared as possible for it. If that involves threads about controversial topics then oh well. I personally think that phatmass is a very good environment to learn about these "controversial" subjects because otherwise we'll just find out about them somewhere else. I hope I haven't offended anybody, but I'm 16, go to a public highschool, and I'm tired of people trying to cover up the corruption in the world, because it's there and people either need to learn how to handle it or to know when and what to avoid.

Peace,
Jacob

[popestpiusx]

Michael,
You have some good points, but that only goes so far. Ursurping the role of a parent is a bad thing.

[Philippe]

phatmass has been great for me, ive learned so much while i was hear although at one point it did make me very conservative, so much that i was being very closed minded but ive overcome that.

I read this whole thread and i was disgusted by the things i saw while browsing regarding the transgender situation. Im not disgusted by the topic, its life, im disgusted by the lack of maturity and charity that these posts were made with.

As a 15 year old id like to say:

GROW UP WE ARE NOT ALL OUT TO GET YOU

and im spent

[Ash Wednesday]

Despite all the bumps in the road that comes with just about any website or forum, I think dUSt has done a great job. I would have loved phatmass as a teen, much like I loved [i]YOU! magazine[/i] as a pre-internet-era teen. It felt so great to know that being cool and Catholic weren't incompatible.

While I can totally understand the concerns raised regarding the ssa/transgender threads that came up, I think the subjects themselves are a part of a teen's everyday experience these days and I really don't have a problem with them being addressed so long as it is in an appropriate way (which I leave up to the phatmass team).

And quite simply, you just can't please everyone. But I think the majority are more than pleased.

[jasJis]

PhatMass isn't dangerous to teen's faith... Our behavior here sometimes is.

[cathqat]

[quote name='popestpiusx' date='Feb 8 2005, 09:56 PM'] The argument is with your assertion that it is not dusts responsibility to monitor the content of this site. [/quote]
I did not say that it is not dUst's job to monitor the site. In fact, I said he does a good job of that. I said it was the responsibility of parents to monitor what their children read.

[MichaelFilo]

I think that Phatmass, with it's doors open to all topics and people would be seen as a great good, and a prevelant sign of the true Catholic way of accepting all, and teaching the world, not just those who we like.

However, I came across tradionalism on this site. My past love for perfection, tradition, and being part of the few didn't help when I saw the Traditionalists on here who, although in line with the Church on somethings, pulled every card possible without crossing the line of dissedent. For myself, I have come to love traditionalists even more than comming upon this site, but I have also found them to be in error in some parts. I think the real danger is/will be, that one day, in a moment when I see so much abuse within the Church, so much error among the Body of believers, that I'll just turn and become like the others, following a disciplined emptieness, devoid of love, and the Truth entrusted in the Church. However, I guess I'd come across it sooner or later, so I assume it's better here than elsewhere.

I learned alot about this faith, and I also learned many things here. Mostly about people, and how they act. I had a friend or two when things didn't get so hot here. I also learned how heartless some people can be, while still being part of the Body of believers, but that just helped me learn how imperfect we are. I think Phatmass did one of the best things to me, it helped take me down from my crazy, nazi-influenced ideologies about humanity, about people, about perfection, etc. Even if it still lingers in my mind, Phatmass has helped me alot with that and many other things (and I'm sure I won't realize many anytime soon, or even ever), and for that I am ever grateful.

The only change that would seem reasonable is no change; why fix it if it's not broke?

God bless,
Mikey