I'm Done.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='littleflower' date='JMJ+Feb 8 2005, 07:24 AM'] time away always helps.

i know im late but i wish monk wasn't gone....he was a good church militant,.one of the few who was active in the phorum and did the job that many dont' [/quote]
Hopefully he'll decide to come back.

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

[quote name='Good Friday' date='Feb 8 2005, 04:51 AM'] dUSt, I would ask you to reconsider the suspension. I'm not going to push the issue, but I'd ask you to consider that she was mean to people (and I acknowledge that she was) because this is all very difficult for her, and she'd like to have the love and respect from her Catholic brothers and sisters that she deserves -- and she isn't getting it. [/quote]
I, for once, must disagree with you, GF.


I don't know if you saw her post before it got edited, but what she did was completely out of line, and not just for being a Catholic, but for being someone who is courteous of other people.


There was just two or three that 'weren't' showing her respect, etc. etc. The rest of us, and that means me, were. I agree with dUSt, and not because he's the webmaster, but because of the posts I read which she posted.


I think time away may do her some good.

[toledo_jesus]

for a while it was she and me and I don't believe I once disrespected her. She, however, was very quick to label me as ignorant when I didn't agree with her. I understand the difference between homosexuality and transsexualism. I didn't tell her she was sinning either. My point was that nobody wants to hear about personal problems beyond what is required to pray for them. She appeared to take that to mean that there should be no discussion of touchy subjects on the forum, and naturally had that been suggested I would have disagreed with myself as well.

[HomeTeamFamily]

man now we have no crusade leader again

[ironmonk]

[b]1822 [/b]
Charity is the theological virtue by which we love God above all things for his own sake, and our neighbor as ourselves for the love of God.

[b]1829 [/b]
The fruits of charity are joy, peace, and mercy; [b]charity demands beneficence and [u]fraternal correction[/u];[/b] it is benevolence; it fosters reciprocity and remains disinterested and generous; it is friendship and communion:

Please see below for full section:
[url="http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sect1chpt1art7.htm#1822"]http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sec...t1art7.htm#1822[/url]


Calling him a her could be considered a sin against Charity. All wrong doing is a sin, it is wrong to call someone female when they are male.

Even if he went through an opporation, he is still a he. If (God forbid) he was cloned, a male would be produced. Gender cannot change. God puts us in the right body, what we do with it determines if we are using it rightly or wrongly.

God comes first, happiness comes later. I will not stand down from speaking the truth because someone does not want to hear the truth.

I'm still done, just chiming in. (i'm not reading other threads - so again )

God Bless,
ironmonk

[ironmonk]

PS.

When doing a search for him, I found many writings of his all over the Internet.

He has done some awesome apologetic writing toward some non-Catholics.

God Bless,
ironmonk, still like Nextel. Done.

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

Ironmonk:

If you said you were done, you woudln't be still posting. In fact, you wouldn't be reading. How about you just drop the whole thing and act as a functioning part of the family.


I received far worse treatment than you did when I first joined, and I'm still here. So why would you feel the need, when you haven't received treatment as half as bad as I did, to leave? It makes no sense.

[Azriel]

[quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' date='Feb 8 2005, 10:50 AM'] Ironmonk:

If you said you were done, you woudln't be still posting. In fact, you wouldn't be reading. How about you just drop the whole thing and act as a functioning part of the family.


I received far worse treatment than you did when I first joined, and I'm still here. So why would you feel the need, when you haven't received treatment as half as bad as I did, to leave? It makes no sense. [/quote]
Preach it, sister.

[dUSt]

If everyone worried about themselves, this place would function better.

I'm amused at how many times I see stuff like, "well so and so got suspended for 3 days and you suspended so and so for 7 days, and so and so got suspended for this but so and so does this all the time, blah blah blah."

Worry about yourself. This comment is not necessarily directed at anyone.

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

Can I still get my t-shirt, dUSt?

[ironmonk]

[quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' date='Feb 8 2005, 12:50 PM'] Ironmonk:

If you said you were done, you woudln't be still posting. In fact, you wouldn't be reading. How about you just drop the whole thing and act as a functioning part of the family.

[/quote]
Charity demands correction.

Just dropping things is how our society got so bad. If you really meant to drop it, you wouldn't have posted. Just dropping things never solves anything.



[quote]I received far worse treatment than you did when I first joined, and I'm still here.  So why would you feel the need, when you haven't received treatment as half as bad as I did, to leave?  It makes no sense.[/quote]

If you read my reasons earlier, you would see that treatment is not the issue. It makes perfect sense.


[quote name='Azriel']Preach it, sister. [/quote]

Preach dropping it and turn our backs on charity? I don't think that is good advice.


God Bless,
ironmonk

[dUSt]

I don't ever recall Ironmonk saying either "I'm sorry" or "I was wrong about that" for the almost 5 years phatmass has been around. Is it possible that we have found the perfect human being? I'm not saying anything about the current thread, but you know... I'm just saying.

[dUSt]

[i]"For all your learning, all your fame, all your eloquence and power, if you're not humble, you're nothing. Cut out that ego that dominates you so completely--root it out. God will help you. And then you'll be able to begin to work for Christ in the lowest place in his army of apostles."

"To criticize, to destroy, is not difficult; the clumsiest laborer knows how to drive his pick into the noble and finely hewn stone of a cathedral.

To construct--that is what requires the skill of a master."

"Charity consists not so much in giving as in understanding. That's why you should seek an excuse for your neighbor--there are always excuses--if yours is the duty to judge."[/i]

[b]-St Jose Maria Escriva[/b]

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

[quote name='ironmonk' date='Feb 8 2005, 11:38 AM']

Just dropping things is how our society got so bad. If you really meant to drop it, you wouldn't have posted. Just dropping things never solves anything.





If you read my reasons earlier, you would see that treatment is not the issue. It makes perfect sense.


[quote name='Azriel']Preach it, sister. [/quote]

Preach dropping it and turn our backs on charity? I don't think that is good advice.


God Bless,
ironmonk [/quote]
Give it up Ironmonk...There's nothing for me to drop. I'm not the one complaining about being suspended and people not being suspended. If you ask my opinion, from just reading this thread before I started posting, I'd say it has a lot to do with hurt pride. Nothing more, nothing less.


Face it, you're not used to having to dealing with the consequences of your actions in all the time you've been on this board. You have said some very harsh things, and they had nothing to do with charity. You preach charity, why don't you try practicing it. It's more than your definition. It's also baring in mind that how you say things is as important as what you say.

You can correct someone and be uncharitable at the same time. Correcting and charity do not go hand in hand. Correcting is not charity, and charity is not correcting. They're seperate.


Try choosing your words more wisely. Would you say half of what you've said to others if you were talking to Jesus? I highly doubt it. Remember...when you talk to us, you are talking to Jesus.


Either face the facts, or don't. But remember that there's more to life than being right.

[MC Just]

I dont mean to butt in again, but i think some people on this board need to watch and listen to some of the priests on EWTN, especially Fr. Shaughnessy. Which Ironmonk's, attitude reminds me of. I watch Father Angelus Shaughnessy everytime he is on. He preaches pretty militantly. No sugar coating..He tells the truth straight up.