occasion to sin

[dairygirl4u2c]

Please explain choices.

[Socrates]

There should have been more options here.

The Church teaches that putting onself in a situation that is an occasion of sin without sufficient reason is a sin. One should avoid the near occasions of sin whenever necessary.

If one's legitimate duties place one in an occasion of sin and there is no way of avoiding this occassion, and the person works to avoid giving in to sin, there is no sin.

For example, being a doctor, or a vice policeman may place one in situations that are an occasion of sin.

One should never seek out occasions of sin and should avoid them if at all possible.

(I hope this is clear.)

"Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."

[dairygirl4u2c]

Yeah I forgot about that. Thanks for the insight Soc.

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 1 2005, 08:36 PM'] There should have been more options here.

The Church teaches that putting onself in a situation that is an occasion of sin without sufficient reason is a sin. One should avoid the near occasions of sin whenever necessary.

If one's legitimate duties place one in an occasion of sin and there is no way of avoiding this occassion, and the person works to avoid giving in to sin, there is no sin.

For example, being a doctor, or a vice policeman may place one in situations that are an occasion of sin.

One should never seek out occasions of sin and should avoid them if at all possible.

(I hope this is clear.)

"Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil." [/quote]
Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Donna]

Hi Dairy.

How are you?

[spathariossa]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 1 2005, 08:36 PM'] There should have been more options here.

The Church teaches that putting onself in a situation that is an occasion of sin without sufficient reason is a sin. One should avoid the near occasions of sin whenever necessary.

If one's legitimate duties place one in an occasion of sin and there is no way of avoiding this occassion, and the person works to avoid giving in to sin, there is no sin.

For example, being a doctor, or a vice policeman may place one in situations that are an occasion of sin.

One should never seek out occasions of sin and should avoid them if at all possible.

(I hope this is clear.)

"Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil." [/quote]
Ummm...then isn't deciding whether or not to put oneself in an occasion of sin an occasion of sin? It seems to me that if you put yourself in a position to sin (more) gravely but it was a sin to get you there then you're kinda past the "near occasion" part of things. In other words, I find that logic contradictory.

[Socrates]

In the Act of Contrition, we promise to "sin no more and avoid the near occasions of sin."

Near occasions of sin are defined in the Baltimore Catechism as "any persons, places, or things that may easily lead us to sin."

Deciding to do do something wrong is a sin. Use common sense.

[spathariossa]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:53 PM'] In the Act of Contrition, we promise to "sin no more and avoid the near occasions of sin."

Near occasions of sin are defined in the Baltimore Catechism as "any persons, places, or things that may easily lead us to sin."

Deciding to do do something wrong is a sin. Use common sense. [/quote]


My point then was that we can't put ourself in a near occasion of sin. If we do that then we've already sinned.

[Socrates]

[quote name='spathariossa' date='Feb 7 2005, 08:59 PM']

My point then was that we can't put ourself in a near occasion of sin. If we do that then we've already sinned. [/quote]
Are you implying the Act of Contrition is nonsense?

[spathariossa]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Feb 7 2005, 09:13 PM'] Are you implying the Act of Contrition is nonsense? [/quote]
No I just mean that if not avoiding the near occasions of sin is a sin then we can't put ourselves in a near occasion of sin without having sinned. So then the only real near occasion of sin is whether or not we put ourself in a compromising position.

[AngelofJesus]

[quote name='spathariossa' date='Feb 7 2005, 07:15 PM'] No I just mean that if not avoiding the near occasions of sin is a sin then we can't put ourselves in a near occasion of sin without having sinned. So then the only real near occasion of sin is whether or not we put ourself in a compromising position. [/quote]
You have a dizzying intelect. You give your premise and then your conclusion is another premise.

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

We're told, by church teaching, not to put ourselves into an occasion of sin if it's not neccesary.

To be holy is to be set apart. If we don't set ourseleves apart from sin, what makes us so different than non-believers?

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