Why Protestantism?

[Justified Saint]

It is probably the same Kirk who played in those [i]Left Behind[/i] movies too. Not the best track record for sure.

[Tink]

[quote name=' XIX']Examples of Catholic rituals that contradict the Bible? [/quote]

I second that request.

[mulls]

[quote name='Justified Saint' date='Jan 30 2005, 11:16 PM'] Kirk Cameron? The same one who got the show Growing Pains cancelled when he went to tell the producers that he wouldn't do it anymore and began calling them pornographers because they had him dating on the show in a very innocent way?



It is probably the same Kirk who played in those [i]Left Behind[/i] movies too. Not the best track record for sure. [/quote]
yea. he's cool.



i'm also in it for the mega-churches and televangelism.

[Joseph]

[quote name='Catalyst' date='Jan 30 2005, 08:09 PM'] Because tons of Catholic doctrine(catechism) and rituals contadict the bible.

Its why people protested, because people fell away from the true meaning of church as foretold in 2 timothy I believe. [/quote]
How in the world does Catholic doctrine and practices contradict a Catholic book (the Bible)? The Bible didn't appear out of nowhere. Who decided what writings to put in the book? Everything fits so perfectly if you take the time to unlearn whatever assumptions you already have in your mind. Study what the true teachings are from Catholic sources, not Protestant, and you will find the fullness of truth. I found it.

And another thing about Luther...he suffered from scrupulousity, among other things. What better way to rid yourself of that fault by leaving the Church and leaving confession behind along with everything else. Don't like something about Church teaching? Form your own church.

It's funny how Luther also wanted to get rid of Revelation along with the other books. All those wacky fundamentalists would've been lost without it; there would be no [i]Left Behind[/i] books or movies! Good thing others made Luther put it back it in the canon, or Kirk Cameron wouldn't have had any movies to film in the last couple years!

Edited January 31, 2005 by Joseph

[argent_paladin]

I will weigh in since I converted from AofG to Catholicism after reading the CCC (and my father is an ordained Southern Baptist Minister). Although there were of course doctrinal differences between the early reformers and the Church, this was nothing new. What was new was that it was exploited by rulers who wanted an excuse to be politically independent from the Empire and from Rome. Protestantism, with its emphasis on individuality and dislike of centralization, was perfect. The strongest support for the reformation being more about politics than about theology is the English reformation. Catholicism in England was thriving and Henry was named "Defender of the Faith" for his zeal in defending Catholicism from its critics. Henry simply wanted to indulge his lust (and need for an heir) so he started his own Church. This was not a doctrinal difference. Indeed, the definition of protestantism is not so much about theology (since there are thousands of denominations with contradictory doctrine) but about refusal to recognize the authority of Rome. Some protestants venerate Mary and believe in purgatory (like Luther), some baptize infants. There are a bewildering variety of understandings of the second coming, for instance, or justification. Once Luther left, the door was open to go further and further.
The Church and the Bible cannot contradict one another because truth cannot contradict truth. What came first, the Bible or the Church? The Church of course. It wrote and canonized scripture. If one sees a contradition that means one misunderstands scripture or the Church.

[God Conquers]

[quote name='mulls' date='Jan 30 2005, 10:29 PM'] yea. he's cool.



i'm also in it for the mega-churches and televangelism. [/quote]
"Kirk Cameron!"

YES!

Mulls... king of internet sarcasm... cmon guys!


PS Don't forget Mr. T

[Gal. 5:22,23]

[quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' date='Jan 30 2005, 07:49 PM'] What is it that keeps you out of the church, and in Protestantism?


[/quote]
My husband has drawn the perverbial "line in the sand." At this point in time I don't feel led to cross it. I am praying that since he is the spiritual leader in our home, that the Lord will convict him of where we are to go church-wise. I am very unhappy in our current church.

[Gal. 5:22,23]

[quote name='mulls' date='Jan 30 2005, 10:29 PM'] yea. he's cool.



i'm also in it for the mega-churches and televangelism. [/quote]
And don't forget about these people!

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[Brother Adam]

TBN - Run away Run away! :freak: :haha:

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Gal. 5:22' date='23,Jan 31 2005, 10:31 AM'] My husband has drawn the perverbial "line in the sand." At this point in time I don't feel led to cross it. I am praying that since he is the spiritual leader in our home, that the Lord will convict him of where we are to go church-wise. I am very unhappy in our current church. [/quote]
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Edited January 31, 2005 by Brother Adam

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

[quote name='mulls' date='Jan 30 2005, 10:29 PM'] yea. he's cool.



i'm also in it for the mega-churches and televangelism. [/quote]
What's Kirk Cameron have to do with anything? I asked personally, not why someone else.


Why mega-churches? IT takes away the intimacy between you and God.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Mrs. Bro. Adam' date='Jan 31 2005, 12:56 PM'] What's Kirk Cameron have to do with anything? I asked personally, not why someone else.


Why mega-churches? IT takes away the intimacy between you and God. [/quote]


Mulls hasn't been into *serious* discussion in a while. He's fun to have around and jokes around a lot.

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

I think, perhaps, he's stuck in the denial stage and will be much happier if he just goes with God and comes Home to Rome

[spathariossa]

[quote name='Catalyst' date='Jan 30 2005, 08:34 PM'] individuals comprise the church. There was a protestant movement for a reason. Its not for any other reason than realising how far the roman catholic church strayed from the truth. They opperated in thier own power far too often....ever heard of the spanish inquisition? just one example [/quote]
I feel called by the Holy Spirit to respond to this. Okay nevermind I'm just being vindictive.

Do you have any idea what the Spanish Inquisition was? The Church didn't run it. The inquisition was run by the Spanish Government. Initially the pope had agreed to an inquest into heresies in Spain but he gave control of that inquest to the King and Queen of Spain. This was a huge mistake because the King and Queen then used the inquisition as a way to consolidate their political power. The Spanish Inquisition was by far the bloodiest and most brutal inquisition of all. But it was not run by the Catholic church. The Pope asked the King and Queen to stop several times but they refused.

Learn some history.

[Mrs. Bro. Adam]

Hmm...interesting....thank you...