crusader1234 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 [quote name='ironmonk' date='Jan 21 2005, 02:31 PM'] Rise is not a liar. Your statement applies to every one of the crooked democrats that supported the war also. For someone to lie they have to know the truth and tell opposite the truth. Iraq had WMD's - according to the UN. Calling Rice a liar is foolish. [/quote] While I think you're statement about the UN's stance on WMD's is incorrect, I do agree with you about Condi being a liar. There is no proof that she lied, or even that she would have been able to if she wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted January 21, 2005 Author Share Posted January 21, 2005 [quote name='crusader1234' date='Jan 21 2005, 06:11 PM'] While I think you're statement about the UN's stance on WMD's is incorrect, I do agree with you about Condi being a liar. There is no proof that she lied, or even that she would have been able to if she wanted to. [/quote] I read the news report from the UN that stated that Iraq had WMD's before, during, and after the war. I've covered it on another thread here. [url="http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html"]http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html[/url] [quote]Friday, June 11, 2004 The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.[/quote] The leftist media is bias to the point of deception. [url="http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6705"]http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6705[/url] [quote]On June 9, Demetrius Perricos announced that before, during and after the war in Iraq, Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction and medium-range ballistic missiles to countries in Europe and the Middle East. Entire factories were dismantled and shipped as scrap metal to Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey, among others, at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. As an example of speed by which these facilities were dismantled, Perricos displayed two photographs of a ballistic missile site near Baghdad, one taken in May 2003 with an active facility, the other in February 2004 that showed it had simply disappeared.[/quote] [url="http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.html/function/view/categoryid/650/documentid/2563/history/3,2359,650,2563"]http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.htm...3,2359,650,2563[/url] [quote]On June 9th, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council about the export of Iraqi WMD, missile and nuclear components shipped out of Iraq before, during and after the invasion. As reported by MENL news service, UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the Council, "The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," and said inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags. [/quote] [url="http://www.e-thepeople.org/article/32554/view?viewtype=best&skip=10"]http://www.e-thepeople.org/article/32554/v...pe=best&skip=10[/url] [quote]"The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003. The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program.[/quote] [b]The issue is not [i]if [/i]Saddam had WMD's... the issue is [i][u]where [/u][/i]are the WMD's.[/b] God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 exactly my freind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Don't you mean where are the WMD components? Components are different from actual WMD's. Just thought I'd point out that you're slightly skewing information. Also, the United States has conceded that there aren't any WMD's. I don't think you've got much of a platform here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted January 21, 2005 Author Share Posted January 21, 2005 [quote name='crusader1234' date='Jan 21 2005, 07:33 PM'] Don't you mean where are the WMD components? Components are different from actual WMD's. Just thought I'd point out that you're slightly skewing information. Also, the United States has conceded that there aren't any WMD's. I don't think you've got much of a platform here. [/quote] LOL Skew it all you like. The fact is Saddam had WMDs. He got them out of Iraq before, during, and after the war. The US stated that they didn't find any. Iraq is a large place with lots of places to hide them, and it was easy to ship parts out. Maybe you should read the articles I listed instead of just the little bits of them posted. There is a solid platform bro. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezic Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 my question is why are idiots like that elected to the senate? Why do we let them run the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 [quote name='ironmonk' date='Jan 21 2005, 06:06 PM'] Skew it all you like. The fact is Saddam had WMDs. He got them out of Iraq before, during, and after the war. The US stated that they didn't find any. Iraq is a large place with lots of places to hide them, and it was easy to ship parts out. [/quote] It is not a fact that Saddam had (and shipped out) WMDs. It is an allegation. You cannot simply make accusations and call them facts. And secondly, if the USA seriously believed that there were WMDs in Iraq to this date (and honestly, I think they probably know a thing or two by now), do you believe that they would say 'Meh we're tired of looking!' Definately not. There were WMD components shipped out of Iraq prior to 2003, and that is where all evidence begins and ends. The USA has conceded that Iraq does not posess any WMDs, and I think it would be prudent for you to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 [quote name='jezic' date='Jan 21 2005, 06:14 PM'] my question is why are idiots like that elected to the senate? Why do we let them run the country? [/quote] 1) Racists vote for racists 2) Democrats vote for anyone that calls themself a democrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 (edited) i just got into a argument with my Father in law over politics and the church(he's democrat and very liberal) , he says "he'll listen to the church when the church is actually right" to him everything is the "conservative republicans" fault. The scandals and all..even though there is overwhelming evidence thats liberals caused the scandals. He goes on and on about how "bush is murdering our boys" I told him, our boys have been dying by the miillions in this country since roe-v wade. Also backed by the liberals. He started saying "all the bishops are liars and backed bush, those same bishops who protected the pedophile priests. I told him, no not all the bishops protected the pedophiles... He wouldnt even let me finish, im am so fired up right now i can break through a wall..lol I'm sick to my stomache when it comes to Liberalism. Edited January 22, 2005 by MC Just Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 its like somehow their personal opinions are infallible and proven facts are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 [quote name='MC Just' date='Jan 21 2005, 08:12 PM'] its like somehow their personal opinions are infallible and proven facts are wrong. [/quote] And they're constantly accusing conservatives of being "close-minded" and "intolerant"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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