A Challenge: Another evolution thread

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='cathqat' date='Jan 25 2005, 04:58 PM'] I would just like to register my total and complete support for the trivialization of this thread [/quote]
Of course. That's the easiest way to address it.

[cathqat]

[quote name='kjvail' date='Jan 23 2005, 04:14 PM'] This is what I ended up posting for my first message....I'd appreciate feedback. [/quote]
Looks like one of your sources may have been Catholics United for the Faith's [url="http://www.cuf.org/nonmemb/evolution.pdf"]"Evolution" Faith Fact[/url].

[cathqat]

[quote name='DojoGrant' date='Jan 24 2005, 09:29 AM'] And the Church has never stated that the creation story is metaphorical. She simply doesn't say (although she DOES say that at minimum, some parts are quite literal). [/quote]
Every verse in scripture has a literal sense or literal meaning, i.e. the meaning(s) intended by the original author(s). The literal sense of a text may include metaphor or figurative speech. "Literal" and "metaphorical" are not mututally exclusive terms when used correctly.

[God Conquers]

I'm going to quote some articles by my favorite journalist/commentator/small-time pundit David Warren (www.davidwarrenonline.com)

In the words of the late Czeslaw Milosz, which I quoted a few months ago: "A true opium of the people is a belief in nothingness after death -- the huge solace of thinking that for our betrayals, greed, cowardice, murders, we are not going to be judged."

Science cannot now explain, and probably will never be able to explain, the origin of any species in nature -- least of all man. It can assemble the succession of species in the fossil record; it can catalogue resemblances between species in space and time; it can begin to show the fine adaptations of each to its environment; and the workings of "natural selection" when the environment changes; it can even look into the mechanism by which heritable traits are passed along from individual to individual within a species (thanks, incidentally, to a line of intellectual descent not from Charles Darwin, but from an Augustinian monk named Gregor Mendel). But science cannot even tell you how a species is defined, let alone how life emerged from the lifeless sterility of the "primordial swamp".



We are taught that the force of gravity is one of the constants throughout the universe. But this theory compels us to postulate that most of the universe must consist of some utterly unobservable "dark matter". If you ask me, or you ask my friend, that suggests we're going to find a problem with constant-G.
I doubt "macro-evolution" will be defeated like that. I expect it will be more like, "live by the pinprick, die by the pinprick". It will gradually dissolve from a thousand little cuts from Occam's Razor. For the "God" of evolutionary biology -- incremental change by natural selection -- is not sufficiently inspiring to sustain the immense priesthood that has collected around it.


And by the way, it would be no skin off my nose if every aspect of Darwinism were by some miracle demonstrated to be true. I would then have to accept it as a genuine insight into "how" God works. I am agnostic on that point at the moment; my Christian faith is not in the "how", but in He Who Hows.


This is not an article... just quotes from a few articles... don't expect continuity.