Krush2k2 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Any here like Pun? I never see his name tossed around in rap discussions. I think lyrically-if he were still alive, no other rapper on the billboards right now would even come close. Ready for war Joe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Big Pun reminded me of Biggie (aside from their looks, obviously). They were both excellent lyricists, but their lyrics were mostly garbage. They were known for tight rhymes, rather than saying anything of substance. I agree he would probably sell a lot of records today. Fat Joe is, and Pun was definitely a better lyricist than Fat Joe. Speaking of Fat Joe, anyone catch his verse on "New York"?" I was just about to find God/ But now that Mase is back/ I think I'd much rather find a ****** I wonder if he's serious about being just about to find God, or just saying it in reference to Mase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Jan 10 2005, 11:09 AM']Speaking of Fat Joe, anyone catch his verse on "New York"?" I was just about to find God/ But now that Mase is back/ I think I'd much rather find a ****** I wonder if he's serious about being just about to find God, or just saying it in reference to Mase.[/quote] ya i heard that........ i bet mase loved that...... i think joe, along with 99 % of those guys "have already found God" they just havent chozen to follow him...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 they aint refering to our God. They are refering to themselves. Fat Joe is a Hispanic Five Percenter... Most of these rappers when they mention God they arent talking about our God, most of them have been touched by the Nation of Islam sect saying that Man is God, in particular Black, Hispanic and Asian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudine Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 [quote name='MC Just' date='Jan 10 2005, 01:10 PM'] they aint refering to our God. They are refering to themselves. Fat Joe is a Hispanic Five Percenter... Most of these rappers when they mention God they arent talking about our God, most of them have been touched by the Nation of Islam sect saying that Man is God, in particular Black, Hispanic and Asian. [/quote] hispanic and Islam don't mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.R.D Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 BIG PUN IS KOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krush2k2 Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Are you sure Fat Joe is 5 percenter? Can you show me some article or interview where he said that? Thanks and God Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 from what i know Fat Joe belives in the same God we do.... I remember his old cd..."Jelouse Ones Still Envy" in the liner notes, he thanks God and says he knows he isnt righteous but one day wants to serve God fully....... lol man blah blah blah but I think Joe is cool....as far as that line about mase...thats just blasphemy...no way around that.....I THINK he was useing it to diss mase....by makeing the impression that Mase came back to the game for the wrong reasons...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 [quote]I THINK he was useing it to diss mase....by makeing the impression that Mase came back to the game for the wrong reasons......[/quote] I didn't think he was dissing Mase. I thought he was saying, "Look, even Mase is coming back to this environment, so I'll just continue on my merry own sinful way". This all goes back to the question of what is meant by Mase's comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 (edited) Cuban Link had a sentimental tribute to Big Pun after his death, "Flowers For the Dead". I like the hook on that track. Edited January 10, 2005 by Eremite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 what/who is mase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Mase is Mason Betha, rapper turned Protestant pastor turned rapper again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 (edited) [quote name='Eremite' date='Jan 10 2005, 04:40 PM'] I didn't think he was dissing Mase. I thought he was saying, "Look, even Mase is coming back to this environment, so I'll just continue on my merry own sinful way". This all goes back to the question of what is meant by Mase's comeback. [/quote] Eremite i agree with ya were essentially saying the same thing i take it as a diss to mase, since he's doubting his creditabilty and he might be absolutely correct......... but i agree with your statement..... Im waiting to hear some new stuff from Mase his last cd wasnt all that great...but he did somewhat esstablish a line..... now with his next cd, he needs to start to attack the indiviguals on the other side of that line he is attempting to draw....... Edited January 10, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krush2k2 Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 BIG PUN WATCHA GONNA DO It's hard to explain how my squad can harbor the strain of being the largest name in rap, since the almighty Kane Acknowledge the fame, my call was to reign the streets from Harlem to Queens, back to the Bronx who fathered the dream Started this thing called rap, where I reign supreme, my team Regardless of that, I've seen things as far as the crack that'll make the hardest largest artist heart just collapse I'm part of all that that's why it's so hard to go back and start from scratch I'm locked and I'm trapped, in a giant cage Tryin to savor these few dyin days I have left, to the form of flesh; should I lie in my grave? I'm tryin to persuade, my motto is try to be brave and not give death the satisfaction of seein me dyin afraid That why I rise from the grave singin church songs like I was Je-sus Christ pa-rum-pum-pum-pum I remember the first time I heard that back in like 1999 I was like whoa-the way he flows it is so smooth. Pun was a great lyricist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 [quote name='Krush2k2' date='Jan 10 2005, 04:13 PM'] Are you sure Fat Joe is 5 percenter? Can you show me some article or interview where he said that? Thanks and God Bless [/quote] I've listened to his music and most of the rap from NY. He's uses the "5%" lingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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