Q the Ninja Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 (edited) [quote]The debate is over whether or not Planned Parenthood is evil or not. But for the Thomists on the phorum it is about whether or not Planned Parenthood is a being or an effect.[/quote] Edited January 11, 2005 by Q the Ninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I have no real opinion on that. I'll say this, if it is a subsistent "thing", then it cannot be considered evil IN THE STRICT SENSE OF THAT TERM. If it is an effect, then I have no qualms with referring to it as evil, even in the strict sense. In the broad sense of the term, PP is just beaver dam evil no matter what state of existence you give it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q the Ninja Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I guess it depends on what people mean when they refer to Planned Parenthood and if they intend to call all the doctors or whatever who consider themselves to be part of "Planned Parenthood" to be evil too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jan 11 2005, 02:44 AM'] The debate is about whether Planned Parenthood is evil or not. But for the Thomists on the phorum it is about whether or not Planned Parenthood is a being or an effect. [/quote] Troublesome Thomists. I do hate them so! They should all be stamped with a "phishy" label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q the Ninja Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Can I be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Sure. It's easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Jan 10 2005, 11:52 PM'] Troublesome Thomists. I do hate them so! They should all be stamped with a "phishy" label. [/quote] Thomists most certainly should not be classified as "phishy," but it should never be forgotten that Thomism is not a synonym for Catholicism. There are Catholics who are not now, who never have been, and who never will be Thomists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q the Ninja Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Whatda I gotta do? I already wanna be a Thomist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jan 11 2005, 02:59 AM'] but it should never be forgotten that Thomism is not a synonym for Catholicism. [/quote] :spit: [quote]There are Catholics who are not now, who never have been, and who never will be Thomists. [/quote] Poor heretics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='popestpiusx' date='Jan 11 2005, 12:05 AM'][quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jan 11 2005, 02:59 AM'][. . .] but it should never be forgotten that Thomism is not a synonym for Catholicism.[/quote] :spit: [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jan 11 2005, 02:59 AM']There are Catholics who are not now, who never have been, and who never will be Thomists.[/quote] Poor heretics. [/quote] Yes, poor St. Irenaeus, poor St. Athanasius the Great, poor St. Gregory of Nyssa, poor St. Basil the Great, poor St. Gregory Nazianzus, poor St. John Chrysostom, poor St. Cyril of Alexandria, poor St. Maximos the Confessor, poor St. John Damascene, heretics all. :rotfl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q the Ninja Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Hey, wouldn't Aquinas even have been a heretic (materially) anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spathariossa Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='Jan 11 2005, 02:14 AM'] :spit: Poor heretics. [/QUOTE] Yes, poor St. Irenaeus, poor St. Athanasius the Great, poor St. Gregory of Nyssa, poor St. Basil the Great, poor St. Gregory Nazianzus, poor St. John Chrysostom, poor St. Cyril of Alexandria, poor St. Maximos the Confessor, poor St. John Damascene, heretics all. :rotfl: [/quote] O holy bishop Athanasius, you became a stronghold of Orthodoxy. Opposing the heretical opinions of Arias, you explained and taught that the son is equal, in nature, with the father. Holy bishop Athanasius intercede with Christ God, that he may grant us abundant mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Thomism rocks. I respect the Catholc East tho'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Heretics all, whoever you may be, In Tarbes or Nimes, or over the sea, You never shall have good words from me. Caritas non conturbat me. But Catholic men that live upon wine Are deep in the water, and frank, and fine; Wherever I travel I find it so, Benedicamus Domino. On childing women that are forelorn, And men that sweat in nothing but scorn: That is on all that ever were born, Miserere Domine. To my poor self on my deathbed, And all my dear companions dead, Because of the love that I bore them, Dona Eis Requiem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Sorry apoth. The last words of your post reminded me of the poem by Belloc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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