You got to do what makes you happy

[ironmonk]

"You got to do what makes you happy"

Is an anti-Christian falsehood.


"You got to make yourself happy at what you do"

Is the Christian attitude.


[b]St. Matt 6:25 [/b]"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat (or drink), or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing?
[b]26 [/b]Look at the birds in the sky; they do not sow or reap, they gather nothing into barns, yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are not you more important than they?
[b]27 [/b]Can any of you by worrying add a single moment to your life-span? 17
[b]28 [/b]Why are you anxious about clothes? Learn from the way the wild flowers grow. They do not work or spin.
[b]29 [/b]But I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was clothed like one of them.
[b]30 [/b]If God so clothes the grass of the field, which grows today and is thrown into the oven tomorrow, will he not much more provide for you, O you of little faith?
[b]31 [/b]So do not worry and say, 'What are we to eat?' or 'What are we to drink?' or 'What are we to wear?'
[b]32 [/b]All these things the pagans seek. Your heavenly Father knows that you need them all.
[b]33 [/b]But seek first the kingdom (of God) and his righteousness, and all these things will be given you besides.
[b]34 [/b]Do not worry about tomorrow; tomorrow will take care of itself. Sufficient for a day is its own evil.

[b]Matthew 5:12[/b]
Be glad and rejoice, for your reward is very great in heaven. For so they persecuted the prophets that were before you.

[b]1 Peter 3:15[/b]
but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts. Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope,

[b]Luke 6:23[/b]
Be glad in that day and rejoice; for behold, your reward is great in heaven. For according to these things did their fathers to the prophets.


[b]St. John 15:11 [/b]
"I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and your joy may be complete.


[b]Romans 14:17[/b]
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but justice, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.


[b]2 Corinthians 7:4[/b]
Great is my confidence for you, great is my glorying for you. I am filled with comfort: I exceedingly abound with joy in all our tribulation.

[b]2 Corinthians 8:2[/b]
That in much experience of tribulation, they have had abundance of joy; and their very deep poverty hath abounded unto the riches of their simplicity.

[b]Galatians 5:22 [/b]
In contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness,
[b]23 [/b]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

[b]Hebrews 10:34[/b]
For you both had compassion on them that were in bands, and took with joy the being stripped of your own goods, knowing that you have a better and a lasting substance.


[b]Revelation 19:7[/b]
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give glory to him;...


[b]St. Mark 8:35 [/b]
For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and that of the gospel will save it.

Edited January 6, 2005 by ironmonk

[cathqat]

[quote name='ironmonk' date='Jan 6 2005, 01:19 PM'] "You got to do what makes you happy"

Is an anti-Christian falsehood.
[/quote]
Actually, I think there is a sense in which it can be said to be true. It just depends on the meaning of happiness. "The happiness of eternal communion with God is the destiny of human nature, made possible only by grace," as the moral theologies say.

[Guest Aluigi]

he's speaking here of the emotion of hapiness

beaver dam english language doesn't let us clarify... don't you wish we spoke greek or somethin?

[ironmonk]

[quote name='Aluigi' date='Jan 6 2005, 05:04 PM'] he's speaking here of the emotion of hapiness

beaver dam english language doesn't let us clarify... don't you wish we spoke greek or somethin? [/quote]
Specifically when people use to to justify a wrong course of action (such as fornication, ssa acts, divorce, etc...) or when someone is constantly negative.

God Bless,
ironmonk

[XIX]

Absolutely. You can't do anything that definitively [i]makes[/i] you happy. It's impossible; nothing can make you happy. I mean we should always try to strive to be happy; hence, "You got to make yourself happy at what you do."

I'll have you all know that a devotion to Our Lady of Sorrow is a very healthy thing for one's soul.

[Wolfie]

I asked an acquaintance once why she was going to be a bridesmaid in her friend's wedding when she clearly didn't agree with what was going on. (the relationship itself, the wedding was a mockery of what the sacrament should be,...plus many other reasons).

She told me "because I want her to be happy". geez, if only I could have come up with the following at the time:

"Happy? What kind of happy? the fleeting short termed "pleasure" of getting to walk down the aisle and be the "star" for a day? This kind of so-called "happiness" is what leads to life-long heartbreak, brokenness of spirit, divorce, and putting ones soul at danger. Stifling grace and almost mocking a beautiful sacrament designed by God is not what is going to make someone happy".

ok, perhaps I wouldn't have said THAT exaclty, but I should have thought of it then.

I think we know that eternal "happiness" is much more important than the pleasure of the moment.I think people have different personal defintions for the words "joy" and "happiness". Joy can be a portion of peace that can come even from suffering.

Thank God we have a faith that shows meaning with suffering.

Wolfie

[PHATMike]

Definately happiness is not something we as Christians are called to strive for in this world. For only true happiness is possible when we are in full communion with God and that is only after we die. Therefore be careful to see that your reward lies in heaven and not on earth. Thats why the saints are so into mortification...denying the body and the senses because they are of this world.
No matter our emotions people need to know God is with us and even when our souls are dry and down we are blessed by God for our sufferings and can love him even the more.
I would suggest getting a hold of the letters of Padre Pio of Pietrelcina to his spiritual children...deep stuff..good stuff.

[karin]

uumm i do strive for happiness in this world. i want to be happy (emotioanally speaking) when i am being humilated, and when i am doing things i dont like and when i am offering something up. i want to be happy i want to be happy because i am bringing myslef closer to God in these actions. it's not like it is easy for me to do this but is is not impossible as the saints have shown us.

[ironmonk]

[quote name='PHATMike' date='Jan 10 2005, 09:45 PM'] Definately happiness is not something we as Christians are called to strive for in this world. For only true happiness is possible when we are in full communion with God and that is only after we die. Therefore be careful to see that your reward lies in heaven and not on earth. Thats why the saints are so into mortification...denying the body and the senses because they are of this world.
No matter our emotions people need to know God is with us and even when our souls are dry and down we are blessed by God for our sufferings and can love him even the more.
I would suggest getting a hold of the letters of Padre Pio of Pietrelcina to his spiritual children...deep stuff..good stuff. [/quote]
St. Pio's Faith is awesome.

I wish I were half the man St. Pio is. The man who became prayer.... Always praying the Rosary... walking with Christ, Mother Mary, his Gaurdian Angel... physically fighting with with satan.

One knows they're doing something right when the worst of the fallen angels physically throws you around out of anger.... St. Pio's Gaurdian Angel would appear to save him. Just wow!


God Bless,
ironmonk

Edited January 11, 2005 by ironmonk

[Good Friday]

Isn't Christianity supposed to make people happy? Of course, your brand of Christianity doesn't, but that's because it's a false religion of misery. But true Christianity, the kind you don't believe in . . . that's supposed to make people happy, isn't it?

[Guest Aluigi]

not the mere emotion of hapiness

Divine hapiness.

the emotion of hapiness should not be sought after as an end. it is psychologically unhealthy anyway. you gotta accept the good and bad feelings equally. the suffering offer up to God and accept humbly, the joy praise and thank God for.

the emotion is not and cannot be an end. it is of God, hapiness (so is sadness), but the devil uses it often to lead people astray.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Good Friday' date='Jan 13 2005, 10:21 PM'] Isn't Christianity supposed to make people happy? Of course, your brand of Christianity doesn't, but that's because it's a false religion of misery. But true Christianity, the kind you don't believe in . . . that's supposed to make people happy, isn't it? [/quote]
Who are you to say IronMonk's "brand" of Christianity (the Catholic Faith!) is false religion?

This contributes nothing to the thread and is unrelated to the topic.


Good Friday, grow up!

[Good Friday]

[quote name='Socrates']Who are you to say IronMonk's "brand" of Christianity (the Catholic Faith!) is false religion?[/quote]
[color=red]edited for rudeness [/color]
And I don't know if you've noticed, but my goal at this moment is not to [b]contribute[/b] to anything except the moderators' headache.

Edited January 14, 2005 by cmotherofpirl

[JazzforJesus]

i have in my sig part of Paul's Letter to the Romans. and think about it, doing Gods will brings you to happyness

[Guest Aluigi]

and you claim to actually be Christian now...

laughable

Uncle Screwtape is clearly having his way with you.