dairygirl4u2c Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I have another simple request to reach better focus than the last thread generated. I would like people here to give the arguments against the validity of the papacy that are 1. given by the orthodox and 2. that were given by the people in Newman's day. Even if it's illogical, you can still give it. You can still give your own if you want, but I'm not here to see that. If I were grading you, I'd give more points to how well you explained the arguments against the papacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamweaver Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Asking for arguments against the papacy at a catholic phorum? Sorry, can't help ya out there, kind of like the pro-choice arguments thread. Unless someone wants to play devil's advocate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Devil's Advocate: "Conspiculously absent from ALL the church fathers is any reference to the Bishop of Rome as someone who could solve theological problems." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 (edited) Edit: because Dairy doesnt want the response to the argument Edited January 8, 2005 by JeffCR07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Here we go again.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeamFamily Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 so if we oblige, will you defend? seems only fair............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 For the record, my post above is an actual quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 I maintain that the Pope is, indeed, a hologram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q the Ninja Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 dairygirl, how early, for you, is the Church Fathers? I can easily find the word Pope used about 377. I'm just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted January 8, 2005 Author Share Posted January 8, 2005 (edited) I can find the early use of the word pope for bishops other than the bishop of rome too. but anyway. Okay well.. how's this.. if you argue the anti-papal arguments.. i'll argue the papal arguments. But I have a feeling that I'll be the only one thoroughly representing the other side.. please don't let me be right! Edited January 8, 2005 by dairygirl4u2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Why on earth would we want to argue against the papacy? Is this supposed to be some exercise where we all sit around and wonder why we have a pope? Are we supposed to be doing "deep thinking" about our pope situation? Are you hoping for us to have some sort of "eureka" moment and come to some realization that we might not need a pope? What are you hoping to accomplish with this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Kilroy, that might be a bit harsh... could it just be that she's interested in learning about arguments for/against the papacy, and, in all honesty, who better to go to than the "papists" themselves - I mean, if anyone "has heard 'em all" in terms of anti-papal arguments, its us, right? - Your Brother In Christ, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 ummmmmm maybe.............. or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 either way, there's just some games that don't appeal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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