Robyn Posted October 23, 2003 Author Share Posted October 23, 2003 May we know what prompted your question, Robyn? Perhaps we could be more specific in our answers and therefore be more helpful if we knew why you asked. Been reading a book on church history and just curious... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 St. Augie is cool, so is his mom, St. Monica B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicAndFanatical Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Been reading a book on church history and just curious... so did your thoughts get cleared by the posts? and what exactly did the book say about St. Augustine? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Been reading a book on church history and just curious... May we know the title, author, publisher, and date of publication? You can know if it's authentic or invented 'history' by checking out the credentials of the 'historian' that wrote it. I'm not familiar with Australian scholars, although I'm very sure you have some good ones (and some bad ones, just as we have here in the States). My advice: If it's a history by someone educated in a Bible College, be sure you read at least one other book on the very same subject by an accredited historian who was educated at a major university -- a full-time professional in his/her field --for comparison. It is important that histories be scrutinized by other historians; peer review keeps historians from letting their biases reflect in their work. Professional historians have to protect their reputation for objectivity, accurate research, and impeccable scholarship. Peace be to you and to all, Katholikos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn Posted October 24, 2003 Author Share Posted October 24, 2003 so did your thoughts get cleared by the posts? and what exactly did the book say about St. Augustine? Just curious. haha...I just finished and emailed a job application...I'm stuffed...but yeah, I'm just genuinely curious...I haven't read much in the last week but it made him out to be a top guy...but I can't remember if he did something silly before he died.... The book is called "The Story of the Church" and the authors (2) don't state any bias...but it's interesting. It's not anti-catholic, but not anti-prot either One author is dead...it was written abt 20yrs ago and has been revised. (can't be bothered getting it to find their names) Wouldn't it be interesting if an atheist wrote a book on church history! B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn Posted October 24, 2003 Author Share Posted October 24, 2003 (edited) If you get a chance, please go to the New Advent link and read more of his writings. They are amazing. St. Augustine's knowledge of the faith ran deep. God Blessed him. Of course I choose the time when my brain can least handle it! It looks interesting...but after spending 6 hours on a job application....haha! I'll try oh , I've noticed the words "see of..." a lot...is that just a term for a group, like the "See of NY" or something referring to a particular church? Edited October 24, 2003 by Robyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 When you get a chance, Robyn, it would be good for us to know who the authors of the book are. Are they Australian? If they're popular writers, we might recognize them. I'm not sure about your "see of" question. I live in NY, and have never heard of the see of NY. But, I don't get out much! Pax Christi. <>< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Anytime the term "See" is used it's the actual seat (i.e. residence) of the pastor of whichever area is mentioned. For example, the Vatican is the "Holy See"...the actual seat (i.e. residence) of the supreme pastor of the Church. God Bless, Your Servant in Christ, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 oh , I've noticed the words "see of..." a lot...is that just a term for a group, like the "See of NY" or something referring to a particular church? See [Webster] the seat, center of authority, office, or jurisdiction of a bishop. It comes from the Latin sedes (pronounced see-des) = seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 The book is called "The Story of the Church" and the authors (2) don't state any bias...but it's interesting. It's not anti-catholic, but not anti-prot either One author is dead...it was written abt 20yrs ago and has been revised. (can't be bothered getting it to find their names) Wouldn't it be interesting if an atheist wrote a book on church history! B) Robyn, people who write history books don't always announce their biases in print. But you can sometimes infer their biases by what they write or the way subject matter is presented. Professional historians are more reliable than so-called "historians" educated at "Bible Colleges." Professional historians pride themselves on their objectivity and careful, documented research. "Bible-college" graduates or affiliates usually take the Protestant view of history that has been developed only since the 16th century. For example, some Baptist "historians" accept the theory that Baptists existed from the time of John the Baptist (though they offer no historical evidence to support this); other Baptist "historians" admit that no organized Baptist groups existed until the early 17th century. Baptists took their name and some of their principles from the Anabaptists and their progeny, the Mennonites, when they were founded by John Smyth in 1607. I'd rather read an accurate, objective history written by an atheist than a biased one written by a "Bible College historian." Personal beliefs should have no impact on the story of mankind. As long as the historian tells the unvarnished, undistorted truth about history, and tells it objectively, as it really happened, he's a good historian -- whether atheist or not. Peace be to you and to all. Katholikos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn Posted October 27, 2003 Author Share Posted October 27, 2003 it doesn't disagree with the links on Augustine ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 The book is called "The Story of the Church" and the authors (2) don't state any bias... One author is dead...it was written abt 20yrs ago and has been revised. (can't be bothered getting it to find their names) So, are you ever going to tell us who the authors of this book are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn Posted October 28, 2003 Author Share Posted October 28, 2003 The Story of the Church (3rd Ed.). A.M. Renwick & A.M. Harman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joolye Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Gee, girl, after doing 3 years of uni and two years of honours, don't you even know how to properly reference a book? Author(s). (Date). Title. Edition. Publisher:City. Or it could be City:Publisher. I always forget which order those two go according to the APA style. Where did you think you could get away with Title, Edition, Authors??? Hmm? Hmm? Ahh, just teasing!!! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robyn Posted October 29, 2003 Author Share Posted October 29, 2003 Julie - this is NOT UNI Ok...Harman, A.M. & ...ah forget it! Who cares! I don't! But at the yabb I would bother :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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