melporcristo Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I'm not sure if anyone has heard of the ecunemical ministry "Holy Love" in Ohio, but here is the site for it: [url="http://www.holylove.org"]Holy Love[/url] They have an awesome rosary for the unborn and are strong advocates against abortion. BUT the downfall .. least to me, is that our parish cannot pray the Holy Love rosary since it is not accepted by the diocese of Ohio. Let me know what you all think Peace, Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Right off, be obdiant to your diocese...if it is God's will you will be able to partcipate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 [quote name='melporcristo' date='Jan 2 2005, 09:07 PM'] I'm not sure if anyone has heard of the ecunemical ministry "Holy Love" in Ohio, but here is the site for it: [url="http://www.holylove.org"]Holy Love[/url] They have an awesome rosary for the unborn and are strong advocates against abortion. BUT the downfall .. least to me, is that our parish cannot pray the Holy Love rosary since it is not accepted by the diocese of Ohio. Let me know what you all think Peace, Mel [/quote] I would recommend avoiding this group because they do not accept the authority of the Catholic Church: [url="http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/record/holyloveministries.htm"]Warning given by the Diocese of Cleveland: Holy Love Ministries[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melporcristo Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 I remember seeing that on the Holy Love website. They have the official documents from the diocese to why they are unsure of Holy Love. Here is the link to the document (it is adobe so I can't post that on this site) [url="http://www.holylove.org/holy%20love%20book/truthful_history.pdf"]Documents for HOLY LOVE[/url] Hmm ... what do you think? Melissa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 [quote name='melporcristo' date='Jan 3 2005, 12:58 PM'] I remember seeing that on the Holy Love website. They have the official documents from the diocese to why they are unsure of Holy Love. Here is the link to the document (it is adobe so I can't post that on this site) [url="http://www.holylove.org/holy%20love%20book/truthful_history.pdf"]Documents for HOLY LOVE[/url] Hmm ... what do you think? Melissa [/quote] After reading the outline of their history with the diocese of Cleveland, I am confirmed in my original opinion. As an "ecumenical" group, which lacks the approval of the local Ordinary, Holy Love Ministries is not Catholic and so Catholics should avoid it entirely. God bless, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melporcristo Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 (edited) So could the appearances of Mary be real then? And I do agree with you about the group being ecunemical, thus making it valid for the diocese not to approve. I like it because it is so against abortion and homosexuality. So why doesn't the diocese do anything about Future Church? I guess this makes me a little sad ... Mel Edited January 3, 2005 by melporcristo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 [quote name='melporcristo' date='Jan 3 2005, 03:05 PM'] So could the appearances of Mary be real then? And I do agree with you about the group being ecunemical, thus making it valid for the diocese not to approve. I like it because it is so against abortion and homosexuality. So why doesn't the diocese do anything about Future Church? I guess this makes me a little sad ... Mel [/quote] Based on what I read so far, I doubt that the apparitions are valid. Such a decision can only be made authoritatively by local Bishop, and since the group in question is estranged from him, it is unlikely they will receive approval. I would not give any credence to the things said by this group, nor would I participate in any of their functions. They appear to border on the heresy of indifferentism. God bless, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamweaver Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 The rosary for the unborn that they sell is really interesting, but many red flags popped up. Mary (in the apparitions) described special graces that come from praying the specific rosary that they sell. Other websites sell similar copies to the one this organization sells, but Mary (in the apparitions) makes it clear that ONLY the one sold by this organization will get the special graces from praying on it. The other rosaries for the unborn is merely a plot by Satan to fool people from getting the graces from the "real" rosary for the unborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melporcristo Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 (edited) [quote name='Dreamweaver' date='Jan 3 2005, 05:47 PM'] The rosary for the unborn that they sell is really interesting, but many red flags popped up. Mary (in the apparitions) described special graces that come from praying the specific rosary that they sell. Other websites sell similar copies to the one this organization sells, but Mary (in the apparitions) makes it clear that ONLY the one sold by this organization will get the special graces from praying on it. The other rosaries for the unborn is merely a plot by Satan to fool people from getting the graces from the "real" rosary for the unborn. [/quote] Yeah ... that does sound weird. I don't think Our Lady would be picky about certain rosaries. Interesting. I am going to ask a friend about the group. She is a devout Catholic as well as other devout Catholics in my community, who are strong advocates for Holy Love. I am not sure they know about the bishop not officiating the group. Now the pro-life rosary which is what the priest from Priests for Life wrote; is that okay to say out loud? Edited January 3, 2005 by melporcristo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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