james Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 [b]George W. Bush: Champion of “Gay Rights”[/b] December 27, 2004 "By supporting civil unions for gay couples — which, practically speaking, is the cutting-edge issue in the battle for equality — President Bush has become a leading advocate for gay rights," insisted Bush administration official Abner Mason in the December 21 issue of The Advocate, the leading "gay rights" journal. President Bush's support "has made it a lot easier for others to recognize civil unions, especially political leaders in [socially conservative] red states. If gays accept Bush's support and find ways to work with him, the 2004 election will mark a turning point in America’s acceptance of gay relationships." Mason is executive director of the AIDS Responsibility Project and chairman of the International Subcommittee for the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS. In his Advocate op-ed column, Mason also touted Mr. Bush's "support for the reauthorization of the Ryan White Act, which provides care for the poor and uninsured with HIV," and the "$15 billion, five-year Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief...." He urged homosexual activists to engage with the administration in "dialogue." Mason observes that Vermont Governor Howard Dean not long ago "was hailed as a hero" by homosexual activists for his support of "civil unions." "Only eight days before the election, Bush publicly embraced the Dean position, which was also Kerry's position," Mason points out. "The previously controversial — and in Dean's case 'heroic' — position of supporting civil unions was now that of the conservative president. Gays should have seen this announcement and the president's subsequent victory as a major breakthrough for gay rights in America." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conservativecatholic Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 (edited) It was George W. Bush who encouraged the passage of a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. It was George W. Bush who was praised by the Knights of Colombus for defending marriage from any homosexual intrusion. Since there is no mention of gay marriages/civil unions in the Constitution, it is up to the state governments to decide the fate of those issues. According to the 10th amendment in the Bill of Rights, any law that is omitted from the Constitution is subject to the state's own handling. Living in Texas, a predominantly conservative state, I have no worry of gay civil unions or marriages. The time has come that we start thinking of a presidential candidate who can succeed George W. Bush's conservative reign. Although Bush has opposed gay marriage, he has yet to face the problem of civil unions. One candidate in the mind of millions is Rick Santorum, a US Senator from Pennsylvania. Santorun is a true, devout Roman Catholic who opposes abortion in all cases, and defends the sanctity of marriage at all costs. Santorum is also opposed to any mention of gay civil unions. Santorum '08! ....Just something to think about. May God Bless! -conservativecatholic Edited December 28, 2004 by conservativecatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltuba Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 A civil union is NOT marriage. I don't know if I oppose civil unions or not, but at least it's not marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conservativecatholic Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 (edited) [quote name='cooltuba' date='Dec 28 2004, 01:44 PM'] A civil union is NOT marriage. I don't know if I oppose civil unions or not, but at least it's not marriage. [/quote] Who are you referring to? I never stated that civil unions are the same as marriages. Edited December 28, 2004 by conservativecatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltuba Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 (edited) [quote name='conservativecatholic' date='Dec 28 2004, 02:00 PM'] Who are you referring to? I never stated that civil unions are the same as marriages. [/quote] Sorry. I was referring to James. I didn't want to quote his post for such a short reply. My point was that I don't know if gay couples should get equal rights, but a civil union is completely different from marriage and supporting it is not (to me) nessesarily wrong. *edit* Also, the part of his post I was referring to was the part where it says Bush adopted Kerry's policy on the matter, which is wrong. Kerry supported gay marriage. Edited December 28, 2004 by cooltuba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james Posted December 28, 2004 Author Share Posted December 28, 2004 Approval of civil union between homosexuals is approval of homosexuality. This is the shell game which neo-cons play that creates the illusion that they are conservative. Bush publicly opposes gay marriage but goes on to supports gay civil unions. The media focuses great attention on the former and little attention on the latter. The illusion is that he is conservative but the reality is that he supports homosexuality. It's a political trick that Catholics should always be watching out for. Two steps forward and one step back. The two steps forward is Bush's support for gay civil unions. The one step back is Bush's opposition to gay marriage. The net result is one step forward for homosexuals, one huge step backwards for conservative Christians, and Bush retains the illusion of being a "conservative" politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Statement of Archbishop Sean O'Malley of Boston on [i]civil unions[/i]: [url="http://www.rcab.org/News/releases/statement0400311.html"]Statement of Archbishop O'Malley - March 10, 2004[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Cardinal Trujillo, president of the Pontifical Council for the Family, has called [i]civil unions[/i] a "grave sign of dehumanization." Click the link below to read the article: [url="http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/nov/04113007.html"]Gay Civil Unions "Grave Signs of Dehumanization" Says Vatican Cardinal Trujillo[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmasser777 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Civil Union is a PC version of Marriage. Its Marriage just without the Govt, Private Financial benefits that come with a Law-Recognized Marriage. Looks like you Voted in another flip flopper. Poor Evangelical Radicals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Civil unions degrade the sanctity of marraige to a legal contract. However, I think real gay rights activists would call a person crazy for insisting George W. Bush is among their ranks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Catholics must continue to defend the true dignity of the human person by resisting the destructive pro-homosexual ideology prevalent today in the Western World. God bless, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Blaze Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Making a Catholic voice heard did not end after we cast ballots in the last election. Regardless of who is in office, we should continue to voice our opinions and fight to protect fundamental morals in our country. Perhaps this is something we as Catholics should tell the GOP about, just as we did the DP in this last election. ~S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 [quote name='Sammy Blaze' date='Dec 29 2004, 12:07 PM'] Making a Catholic voice heard did not end after we cast ballots in the last election. Regardless of who is in office, we should continue to voice our opinions and fight to protect fundamental morals in our country. Perhaps this is something we as Catholics should tell the GOP about, just as we did the DP in this last election. ~S. [/quote] Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conservativecatholic Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 (edited) [quote name='thedude' date='Dec 29 2004, 10:30 AM'] Civil unions degrade the sanctity of marraige to a legal contract. However, I think real gay rights activists would call a person crazy for insisting George W. Bush is among their ranks... [/quote] I absolutely agree. Edited December 30, 2004 by conservativecatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmasser777 Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 [quote]thedude @ Dec 29 2004, 10:30 AM) Civil unions degrade the sanctity of marraige to a legal contract. However, I think real gay rights activists would call a person crazy for insisting George W. Bush is among their ranks... [/quote] hey they claim what they do is NORMAL! Why not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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