Budge Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 De 28:14 And thou shalt not go aside from any of the words which I command thee this day, to the right hand, or to the left, [b]to go after other gods to serve them.[/b] The DL is a god.... When I was UU,(unitarian-universalist) they loved the Dalai Lama. Christian churches should not be seeking peace through Buddhist GURUS, Im sorry. The Dalai Lama is just one of the pre-False PROPHETS paving the way. He is spreading the LUCIFERIAN NEW AGE GOSPEL. In the UU church people literally did believe that Dalai Lama was an archetype of God on earth. [image noborder]http://media.phillyburbs.com/2004/10/04/MEXICO_DALAI_LAMA.jpg[/image] Dalai Lama: Religion Not Cause of Violence By WILL WEISSERT The Associated Press MEXICO CITY - The Dalai Lama on Monday told more than 1,000 people at the National Cathedral [b]he doesn't believe differences between fundamentalist Islam and the religions of the West are the cause of war and modern violence.[/b] The 14th Dalai Lama, the exiled spiritual leader of Tibet, joined representatives from 11 other major religions to lead a prayer session for peace in the heart of historic downtown Mexico City. "Some people were under the impression that there is a clash" between traditions of the East and West, said the Dalai Lama, adding that he didn't think so. He said "hatred was easily manipulated" and that "some mischievous people manipulate religion." But he added later that [b]"the whole world, due to communication, population and tourism, is something like one entity, one body."[/b] (new age gaia theory) The large crowd, made up of congregations from dozens of diverse Mexican faiths, [font color=red size=5]gave the Dalai Lama an extended standing ovation when he entered the majestic cathedral[/font] and another when he finished his address, which took more than 40 minutes and covered every topic from the virtues of living a moral life to coping with getting older. As he was leaving, the Dalai Lama playfully tugged on the long beard of another religious leader on-stage and pretended to scurry off. In a shorter and far more focused presentation, Mexico City Roman Catholic Archbishop Norberto Rivera said [font color=red size=5]"we have gathered here, the different religious denominations ... to perform a common prayer asking for world peace."[/font] (praying to whom???) Also on Monday, President Vicente Fox unexpectedly extended a verbal welcome to the Dalai Lama, who arrived Sunday for a four-day visit that has been advertised on billboards around the capital. Fox's government has said repeatedly that the Dalai Lama, is a religious figure in its eyes and not a political one. Last week, the Dalai Lama visited Costa Rica, El Salvador and Guatemala and met with the presidents of each country, but Fox has no plans for a face-to-face meeting. Still, during an event in Mexico state, which borders the nation's capital, the president said the Buddhist leader arrived in Mexico "with a message of unity, a message of peace, a message of spirituality." "To the Dalai we extend a welcome to our country," Fox said, "a country of values, a country of families, a country working hard to build a better future." Dalai Lama is a religious title roughly translating into "Ocean of Wisdom" and referring to only part of it, as the president did when he said simply "Dalai," is unusual. First lady Marta Sahagun received a personal audience on Sunday night with the Dalai Lama who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989. She called the meeting "a conversation that was very cordial, very nice, where we only talked about things that had to do with his spirituality, which I admire." Mexico is trying to expand economic and social relations with China and has a fiercely isolationist history that makes it wary of taking a stand on international questions, such as whether Tibet should have more autonomy from China. The Dalai Lama has lived in exile in Dharamsala, India, since a failed Tibetan uprising against the Chinese government in 1959. He now acknowledges that Tibet is part of China, but Beijing still considers him a revolutionary who works to spread notions about Tibetan independence. Although Fox has no plans to meet with the Dalai Lama, his visit has nevertheless upset Beijing. On Wednesday, the Dalai Lama is scheduled to address much of Mexico's Congress as an invited guest, a visit that prompted China to write a letter of protest in May. China's ambassador to Mexico, Ren Jingyu, said last week that Mexico should not allow the Dalai Lama to spread his revolutionary messages on its soil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I don't think you understand Buddhism, it is really a nihlistic philosophy not a religion, the concept of godhood is not even what a western pagan would understand as a god. Your right we shouldn't be cheering his praises, he is at best a dupe of the devil, but don't impose UU views about him on to him himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 No one said in what you just posted that we should convert to or are a part of any thing else but Christianity. Ecumenism and Converstion thus differ greatky from Unitarianism and Relatavism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 So why is the Catholic clergy lauding this man so much? To invite a man that believes himself to be part of the godhead(Yes I know I didnt get into the specifics of Buddhism) to preach peace? The only true source of peace in the world is Jesus Christ, the Catholic clergy has forgotten that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I didn't see any lauds from the Church. The Archbishop said that they are gathering in a common prayer for peace, but this article dealt more with Mexico and their position on the Dalai Lama than the Church. At best the reported comments by the Archbishop were neutral. At worst they were decidedly neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Why have common prayer with a man that belives himself to be part of the godhead, and who is he praying to why you pray to God? I dont see inviting the Dalai Lama up for a speech in one of Mexicos biggest and most well known Cathedrals as taking a position of neutrality towards him., Obviously this bishops saw the DL as a teacher of some sort of wisdom ignoring the fact that by scriptural tests the DL is antiChrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budge Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Oh he was awarded a plaque, that is a laud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Why was Paul "lauding" the Athenians in Acts 17? Acts 17:22 So Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, "Men of Athens, I observe that you are very religious in all respects. "For while I was passing through and examining the objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.' Therefore what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you. Why didn't he stroll in to Athens calling the inventors of all these God's and temples a bunch of lying idolaters. Rather he uses what they know to convert them to the truth. Take note Budge. This is the way the Catholic Church converts those who do not know Christ. This is the Biblical way. Find the truth in what they know and use it to connect with them and then give them the Gospel. Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader1234 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I think its radonkulous to say that he's a pawn of the devil. He, however wrong, clearly has good intentions and wants peace. He's just a person that, in trying to find God, got lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 (edited) [quote] I think its radonkulous to say that he's a pawn of the devil. He, however wrong, clearly has good intentions and wants peace. He's just a person that, in trying to find God, got lost. [/quote] Well where do you think that pawns of the devil come from? And anyway he isn't trying to find God, as a buddhist he directly Denies the existance of any God in the Western Monotheist since of the word, and the "gods" he does aknowledge are not even as god like as a pagan Greek. He believes in nothing, not to say he has no believes but that he truely believes in a positive nothingness as the goal of all people. He is a servent of evil, that makes him a servant of the Devil, even if he doesn't know it, or desire it, he still serves the Devils cause, in a Devil inspired religion. edit: really that shouldn't say religion, that ahould say philosophy. Edited December 15, 2004 by Don John of Austria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 [quote name='Budge' date='Dec 14 2004, 08:49 PM'] The DL is a god.... [/quote] Blasphemer! Just kidding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catholick Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 The Dalai Lama has never claimed to be god where ever you got your information from is wrong even in the "Buddhist Bible" Buddha never claims to be of, from, or a god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 (edited) The mahyana buddhist believe Budda was and is a god of sorts, this is opposed to Theravada buddhist who do not. I went ahead and found something ya'll can read about it on.[url="http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/BUDDHISM/MAHAYANA.HTM"]Mahyana Buddhism[/url] The Dali Lama is a Mahyana buddhist, and he and other Tibetan Buddhist believe he is theFuture Buddha Edited December 17, 2004 by Don John of Austria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmasser777 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 (edited) [color=red]Edited by Kilroy the Ninja: Play nice please.[/color] Edited December 17, 2004 by Kilroy the Ninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0lar_bear Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 (edited) [quote name='Phatmasser777' date='Dec 17 2004, 03:30 AM'] [color=red]Edited by Kilroy the Ninja: Play nice please.[/color] [/quote] That was unnecessary. Be nice. Edited December 17, 2004 by Kilroy the Ninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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