5 Percenters

[MC Just]

I believe the 5 Percenters belief that they are God comes directly from Adam and Eve. Remember the Serpent saying "you will be like God" I believe they actually believed they were God's after that moment. The 5 percenters believe the blackman is God, Adam and Eve were black I believe..... So thats were the 5 percenters got it from. I analyse their music.

Ive been listening to "Shabazz the disciple" They truly believe that they are gods. They are so militant it's frightening, esp towards Catholics. I believe they are being led and lied to by the Serpent. Their rhyming abilities and skills are unbelievable. They need our prayers big time. They are waging war against the Church.

[Guest]

interesting stuff
can u post some lyrics ?

[MC Just]

From "death be the penalty"

Yeah
The once lost, disciples -- now found
Bound, together, forever

Verse One:

As I embellish, mentally I nourish
Resuscitate a mindstate that has perished, you shall inherit
his blood I require back, to Earth
we rise out of spiritual darkness, six thousand year curse
The lost disciples, bound, to the midst of the
bottomless pit, trapped behind the gates of the wicked wilderness
I hear the sound of the trumpets, blowing across the heavens
It's calm -- prepare, for the storm, of the seven
Shabazz, the Disciple, the holy, exalter
Condemning those, who sacrificin, babies on the altar
I hear the cries of innocent black babies who are aborted
and unmercifully slaughtered
Loud screams echo, skulls of angry slaves
turning over in their graves
The white sheets are like white flags, you need to wave it
To the soldier, of the Lord, the warrior King David
I come to kill and crucify, those who trick and lie
In the eyes, of the most, high
The pale-face, devil race, caucasoid germ
Grafted, from original, black man's sperm
Thin-blooded weak, grafted-brain punk
Your power's a third of mine, you drunk funky skunk
How dare you use Jesus name to shell your filthy religion
My tongue be the sword, to slash you with precision
The justice system is his, the court'll only acquit him
And eighty-five percent of y'all are going to hell with him
The walls of hell, are closing in, disciples, we rose again
the Sunz of Man, chosen men
Like lightning, striking, from the East
The Holy Psychiatrist, 4th Disciple, and Killah Priest

Unlimited volts, of energy, striking, the enemy
The righteous vicinity, death be the penalty

Chorus:

So come on and swing it low, sweet chariot
Pick up your righteous load, and yo then carry it
To a new home, and i-dentity
For my people, death'll be the penalty
Uhh, and for my folks I mad a-love
Keep your eyes on the prize and you'll rise above
And yo Shabazz, make sure you sing it loud enough
Peacein out to the righteous stay rugged and rough
And y'all get on down, come on now get on down
Swing it low sweet chariot... get on down
Come on now get on down, swing it low sweet chariot

Interlude:

Lawd, I'm in this culture
The microphone and I'm joinin
Sharpen your sword, we must be aware
Them trick knowledge, they use to de-ce-ive us
You've been plagued with the mental di-se-as-es
You worship false portraits of Je-eh-s-us
The grafted image, of worshipping Ce-as-ea-r

Verse Two:

I hear the snap of my great great grandfather's neck
in a noose, hangin from a f**kin tree whipped-in mentally
abused, visions of great great cousins
Runnin across the field, unarmed
Ran down, and killed
I be the star to dispel the darkness
Cast upon your soul by inhabitants of Mount Caucus
Who praise the dead, and not the true and living
Killed Jesus and said, that he died for their religion

Chorus

Swing it low now
Swing it low now (sweet chariot)
Swing it low now (sweet chariot)
Swing it low not (sweet chariot)
Pick up the righteous load and yo carry it

[melporcristo]

ahh that stuff makes me sick. SOme parts, I'm like, cool they don't like abortion, but then the rest is like black panthers, militant stuff.

I'm curious, do they play this stuff on Christian radio?

[MC Just]

no christian radio for these guys. They are militant racists. They say they have proof that white people were made by a evil black scientist and that they are the "oriiginal jews".

[MC Just]

Christian apologetic link on them:

[url="http://www.apologeticsindex.org/f14.html"]http://www.apologeticsindex.org/f14.html[/url]


5 Percent network Official site

[url="http://www.ibiblio.org/nge/"]http://www.ibiblio.org/nge/[/url]

[MC Just]

A splinter group of the Nation of Islam, "Five Percent" is also known as "Nation of Gods and Earths." That phrase refers to one of the basic tenets of the Five Percent movement: blacks are gods and women are earths. Members are known as "Five Percenters." "Five Percent" refers to the belief that only five percent of all people knows and teaches the truth. Ten percent conspires to hide the truth.

The movement calls itself "a culture" and "a way of life" and rejects being called a religion. It's teachings are referred to as "Supreme Mathematics."


(...) For the Five Percent, education and family are of prime importance. The word "peace" is central to the teachings. The 34-year-old movement rejects drinking, drugs and fornication.

It also rejects most accepted history, authority and organized religion. The black man, the Five Percent teaches, is god.
(...)

They draw in part from the Nation of Islam, such as the teaching that a scientist created the white man from the black man, who in turn tricked the black man into slavery.

Teachings speak of Allah as supreme being. Each man is god only of his own universe, his family, and not of other people.

While only black men are gods, others who accept the knowledge of the Five Percent can become "civilized people."
Source: Prison-based movement stirs debate, Bakerfield Californian, Dec. 5, 1998


1. That black people are the original people of the planet earth.
2. That black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.
3. That the science of Supreme Mathematics is the key to understanding man's relationship to the universe.
4. Islam is a natural way of life, not a religion.
5. That education should be fashioned to enable us to be self sufficient as a people.
6. That each one should teach one according to their knowledge.
7. That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.
8. That our children are our link to the future and they must be nurtured, respected, loved, protected and educated.
9. That the unified black family is the vital building block of the nation.

Source: The 5% Network (PRO) What We Teach


The Five Percenters are a splinter group that broke away from the Nation of Islam (NOI) in 1964, under the leadership of Clarence "Pudding" 13X. The name is derived from their belief that they are the chosen five percent of humanity who live a righteous "Islamic" life and thereby have manifested the "true divine nature of the black man who is God or Allah." This group rather than the NOI was primarily responsible for disseminating, popularizing and reinterpreting the "Lessons" or teachings of Elijah Muhammad among the adolescent generation of the sixties in the New York metropolitan area. In the twenty-five years since, the influence of The Five Percent Nation or The Nation of Gods and Earths (as they are now known) has grown enormously-many of the lyrics in contemporary rap music make direct reference or strong allusion to Five Percenter ideology.

[MC Just]

I used to "build" with a so called "god" of this group who told me if i wanted to join them I had to become a Freemason.. Thank God, he brought me to texas and I converted to Catholicism before that happened...

[Guest]

the beast
riseing out the sea....

[musturde]

[quote]7. That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.[/quote]

... you're kidding me right? They actually believe an arabic word would mean what they want it to in english?

[Dreamweaver]

Seriously, I never heard of the 5% group before this thread...course, it could be that I live in North Dakota, aka German/Norwegian-ville. French toast and English muffins are ethic food!

Kinda makes me scared about the stuff out there. They say that they're a peaceful group, but those lyrics sure don't seem peaceful. Have there been any acts of violence commited by 5%er people? Do they consider Malcolm X to be a traitor?

[MC Just]

I've been to a 5 percenter forum where they are plotting to start a jihad agains white people in america...... Remember the sniper in Washington?? He was one of them, he would leave cards behind saying he is god....

[Dreamweaver]

[quote]3. Peace. Peace is the absence of confusion (chaos) and the absence of confusion is Order. Law and Order is the very foundation upon which our Science of Life rest. Supreme Mathematics is the Law and Order of the Universe, this is the Science of Islam, which is Peace. Peace is Supreme Understanding between people for the benefit of the whole. We will achieve Peace, in ourselves, in our communities, in our nation and in the world. This is our ultimate goal.[/quote]from their official webpage

They have a crazy flip-floppy definition of peace. For those who live where the 5% Network is more active, what are the law enforcement's reaction to this group? Do they leave them be, since they are "a way of life", or are they considered a gang? Is there specific 5% gang paraphenelia? Are they more of an "underground" mafia?

I find it absolutely wacky that they refer to each other as gods.... :angry:

How widespread is the movement? West coast and east coast? Definately not in North Dakota, haha

[MC Just]

[quote name='Dreamweaver' date='Dec 6 2004, 10:21 PM'] from their official webpage

They have a crazy flip-floppy definition of peace. For those who live where the 5% Network is more active, what are the law enforcement's reaction to this group? Do they leave them be, since they are "a way of life", or are they considered a gang? Is there specific 5% gang paraphenelia? Are they more of an "underground" mafia?

I find it absolutely wacky that they refer to each other as gods.... :angry:

How widespread is the movement? West coast and east coast? Definately not in North Dakota, haha [/quote]
they are larger than you can imagine....They are worldwide..

[zealousrap]

was that sniper really one of them?? the FBI could bring them down if they got linked directly to the shootings...conspiracy, terror threat, etc.