aloha918 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I was wondering others take on them.....i happen to be a large fan although i do know that he is pro choice and was on the vote for change tour.......my arguement is that in a lot of his music you hear a lot of talk about God......also his lyrics are very "hidden" so that you can get all type of messages out of the music.......i personally get a lot of spiritual messages from the music...so tell me your thoughts.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 alot of my friends be bumpen dave i like the song "crash" to but there last cd "some devil" thats blasphemy he's talking about God i cant be down witht hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 [quote name='Delivery Boy' date='Dec 1 2004, 11:35 PM'] alot of my friends be bumpen dave i like the song "crash" to but there last cd "some devil" thats blasphemy he's talking about God i cant be down witht hat [/quote] mann i dont mean to always sound like a hater hell i dunno, mabey daves alright he's got some darn good songs i thought though with that song some devil, he was attacken the church i dunno, wut was the concept of that song ? anyone know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloha918 Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 [quote name='Delivery Boy' date='Dec 1 2004, 11:35 PM'] alot of my friends be bumpen dave i like the song "crash" to but there last cd "some devil" thats blasphemy he's talking about God i cant be down witht hat [/quote] this is what i mena though...i had no idea what that song was about....haha......but his songs like Bartender, pig, best of whats around......these are all very possitive songs....and are very inspirational songs like crash i don't listen to...its a good song....but it is qwite clear what he is talking about....same with Say goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duc_In_Altum Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I used to be a huge DMB fan. They're arguably just about the most talented secular artist around. They have some really amazing songs out there: ie. the dreaming tree, big eyed fish, #41, say goodbye, all along the watchtower, warehouse, etc. I really don't listen to much secular music anymore though. They, as of about three months ago, were one of the few i still listened to. Then I found out they were pro-choice and found it really disappointing. I refuse to support just about anything pro choice. I, regrettably, no longer will buy their music or attend their shows. I havent listened to my old DMB cd's for a while now but am considering cuz i miss it a lot. i don't know if i should though. Im pretty torn on the issue. -Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloha918 Posted December 6, 2004 Author Share Posted December 6, 2004 i realize what you mean....but i think that you are supporting their music...not their personal beliefs........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2theg Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 They have some good songs, but I think they are highly overrated. I try not to buy music by people that are pro-choice but I have done it accidentally a few times. I try to get Christian bands now. They have a darn good drummer though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirklawd Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 i really like their music too. its a shame that his personal/political beliefs are not christian. like, i woulda guessed differently after listening to "Bartender". that song is really good and has obvious christian/catholic influences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 i'm a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duc_In_Altum Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 [quote]i realize what you mean....but i think that you are supporting their music...not their personal beliefs........... [/quote] That's true only to an extent. You see, DMB isn't just pro-choice. They actually donate a portion of their concert and cd proceeds to Planned Parenthood. So even if i did support their muzik by buying a cd or attending their concert, i would be indirectly supporting abortion. So i think ill choose to burn their cd's from now on and just listen to them privately. But wont burn the cd of a christian artist. God bless. -Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloha918 Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 [quote name='Sirklawd' date='Dec 6 2004, 06:03 PM'] i really like their music too. its a shame that his personal/political beliefs are not christian. like, i woulda guessed differently after listening to "Bartender". that song is really good and has obvious christian/catholic influences. [/quote] i completely agree.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloha918 Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 [quote name='Duc_In_Altum' date='Dec 7 2004, 01:46 AM'] That's true only to an extent. You see, DMB isn't just pro-choice. They actually donate a portion of their concert and cd proceeds to Planned Parenthood. So even if i did support their muzik by buying a cd or attending their concert, i would be indirectly supporting abortion. So i think ill choose to burn their cd's from now on and just listen to them privately. But wont burn the cd of a christian artist. God bless. -Joe [/quote] where have you heard that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azaelia Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 [quote name='aloha918' date='Dec 7 2004, 11:39 AM'] where have you heard that? [/quote] [quote name='rockforlife.org']There are many reasons for a band to be on our pro-abortion bands list. Some of them donate money or play concerts to raise money for Planned Parenthood, Rock for Choice, Voters for Choice, Axis of Justice, America Coming Together, PunkVoter.com, Air Traffic Control Project, or other pro-abortion causes. Some of these bands produce songs with a pro-abortion message or they have taken a strong pro-choice stance. The bands on the following list either promote or endorse abortion.[/quote] ^ DMB is on that list. You can see for yourself here: [url="http://rockforlife.org/html/music_proabortionbands.html"]http://rockforlife.org/html/music_proabortionbands.html[/url] The reason we know they are a pro-choice band is because they actively support pro-choice causes. If it were simply personal opinion and nothing more, what would be the sense in proclaiming it? [url="http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news.asp?contentID=192209"]Dave Matthews To Help Planned Parenthood Debut New Condom[/url] [url="http://www.chartattack.com/beaver dam/2001/04/2404.cfm"]Don't Accept Condoms From Dave Matthews [/url] And: [quote name='Planned Parenthood Website']Vox works with musicians and the music industry to help create a healthier world and to inspire young people to use the power in their voices. This fall Planned Parenthood linked up with Ani DiFranco's tour, and staff and volunteers from many Planned Parenthood affiliates nationwide were at the shows to provide vital information about reproductive health and rights, and to recruit young people to Vox. Planned Parenthood has conducted outreach at thousands of shows, including [b]Dave Matthews Band[/b], Barenaked Ladies, Phish, No Doubt, Santana, Moby, Joan Osborne, Vans Warped Tour, and many others. [/quote] Sad, but true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onwardchristiansoldier Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I agree mostly with what my boy Duc IN says... minus one thing... Do you feel that it is okay to burn the cd, even if you know you're not gonna buy it in stores? I think this is something that goes against catholic beliefs as far as stealing, and the virtue of being honest. All musicians work for a living (i'm not saying most of them are hard pressed for cash) and should be given proper profit for people enjoying their product. By no means am i encouraging buying a DMB cd... i too was once a fan and enjoyed the music thoroughlyl, but i think part of the sacrifice that goes with standing up for life, especially in the fields of media, is sacrificing the pleasure of listening to that music because of what it associated with.... let me know what you think much love and peace bj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onwardchristiansoldier Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 also i meant to give a shout out to rock for life... they do good work in promoting pro-life artists and helping keep the faithful public aware of who stands where on life issues.... if you guys get a chance check it out peace and prayers bj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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