the lumberjack Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 whats this with Scott Hahn saying that the Holy Spirit is the FEMININE part of God??? WHAT?!?!?!? Catholic priests on every level disagree with Hahn and don't support any of his blathering babble... good to see some catholics have their stuff together. so I guess I'm trying to see exactly who here follows Mr Hahn's CRYSTAL CLEAR blasphemy calling the Holy Spirit the feminine part of God. yes? no? why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicCrusader Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 The neo-cons probably support Hahn, but any good Catholic knows it is a bunch of mumbo-jumbo, which is typical of Hahn on many levels. Even the neo-con New Oxford Review had an article against Hahn (consequently, to show even more their true neo-con colours, the next published periodical had an "apology" to Hahn). I think truly ridiculous is his idea that the "It is consumated" spoken by Christ on the Cross refers to the Last Supper?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicCrusader Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 (edited) lumberjack, you spelled Traditional wrong in your signature, and if you notice, dUst has re-named that person "CatholicCrusader2" (since it was a name I created). Edited December 1, 2004 by CatholicCrusader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lumberjack Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 BIGGIDY BIZZUMP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Dr. Hahn is a professor of Theology and Scripture at Franciscan University of Steubenville. He has also lectured and served as adjunct faculty at a variety of diocesan and Vatican-sponsored seminaries and institutions of higher learning, including the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross and the Pontifical University, Regina Apostolorum, both located in Rome. In 2003, Dr. Hahn became the first lay person to be selected to hold the prestigious Pio Cardinal Laghi Chair for Visiting Professors in Scripture and Theology at the Pontifical College Josephinum in Columbus, Ohio. Dr. Hahn and his wife Kimberly live in Steubenville, Ohio, with his wife and six children. He has also signed the Mandatum giving 100% assent and agreement with all Catholic teachings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lumberjack Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 are you even IMPLYING that he is CORRECT is saying that the Holy Spirit is the FEMININE part of God? that assumption made by mr hahn is the most asinine thing I've EVER heard. right on up there with Jim Jones Kool Aid and the Heaven's Gate lovlies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 (edited) Interestingly, one of Islam's attacks on Christianity is that God is "Father," with masculine attributes; in contrast to the neutered Allah. Also, lumberjack, could you quote Scott Hahn's words or was this something on TV? I'm just curious what he said--it's difficult to debate hearsay. Thanks! Edited December 1, 2004 by Mateo el Feo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 PS--I distinctly heard the voice of "Strongbad" in the title of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarkich Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I read this in the New Oxford Review that someone gave me. I believe it was published in one of the summer editions because I read it on the way to Chicago this summer, but it may have been sometime before the summer (and I simply got it a few months after). The author of the article--I do not recall his name--makes a pretty solid case against the Hahnverts (as opposed to converts) and nonsense in some of Scott Hahn's theology. The fact that the Holy Ghost is supposedly a feminine Person of the Trinity is one of the major points of error in Hahn's ever-changing theology. The author points out the fact that, because Hahn converted by his own biblical study and understanding, he has been led to believe that his understanding of the Bible, even when unsupported by Church Fathers or Catholic theologians, is still an acceptable interpretation of various parts of Scripture. The article accuses Hahn of comments that are offensive to pious ears that are proximate to heresy. He makes a fairly solid argument for this thesis. Hahn is an ambitious theologian, but his connections to the so-called Covenant(al) Theology and his personal interpretation of several Scripture passages apart from Catholic Tradition and teaching make his theological writing suspect at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lumberjack Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 Mateo, first of all...YES STRONG BAD!!! hahahah second, [url="http://www.catholicintl.com/catholicissues/triple1.htm"]hope this helps[/url] cuz thats where I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 [quote name='amarkich' date='Dec 1 2004, 03:38 PM'] I read this in the New Oxford Review that someone gave me. ... The author of the article--I do not recall his name--makes a pretty solid case against the Hahnverts (as opposed to converts) and nonsense in some of Scott Hahn's theology. [/quote] OK, so you read an article written by someone who doesn't like Scott Hahn. This is textbook hearsay, amarkich, and precisely the reason I asked for some kind of direct quote. I'm looking all over the Internet, and I can't find any direct quotes anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lumberjack Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 didn't you click on the link I posted? that link is from a VERY catholic site...so you know that they're not just hating on ole scottie boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duc_In_Altum Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 (edited) Hey yall, watch it. Let's keep the Scott Hahn bashing to a minimum, yo. He's my uncle. God bless, -Joe Hahn Edited December 1, 2004 by Duc_In_Altum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 [quote name='CatholicCrusader' date='Dec 1 2004, 02:10 PM'] I think truly ridiculous is his idea that the "It is consumated" spoken by Christ on the Cross refers to the Last Supper?? [/quote] Actually, it works on many levels. It refers to the salvation of man, to the establishment of the New Covenant, to the Eucharist, etc. It refers also to the Last Supper, which was a Passover meal. If you have ever been to one, you will notice that Christ stopped at the Last Supper with the third cup out of the four. Then He said that He would not drink of the fruit of the vine again until the Kingdom was established. Then He drank from the Cross, the fourth cup, essentially, and died. He had completed the Passover from the night before and the entire concept of the Passover throughout history-to save man from his sins and to bring him to the heights of heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 [quote name='Duc_In_Altum' date='Dec 1 2004, 03:59 PM'] Hey yall, watch it. Let's keep the Scott Hahn bashing to a minimum, yo. He's my uncle. God bless, -Joe Hahn [/quote] Are you serious? I'm trying to get into Steubenville...maybe I'll get to meet your uncle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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