The Other Day I Passed A Methodist Episcopalian

[VeraMaria]

What's the deal with that??

Is it two denominations blended into one or....

Thanks in advanced! B)

[PedroX]

The methodists were a split off the Episcopalians. All Methodists used to be ME. The black branch of the church was AME (African Methodist Episcopalian)

peace...

[Ellenita]

Aren't Episcopalians also Anglicans? The Anglican church in England is divided between the 'high' and 'low' church and there is continually a debate about joining with other Christian denominations, with the 'low' church being aligned with Methodist church. There are similarities in their style of worship.

I'm not surprised to hear that individual churches are already joining with other denominations, and I bet there will be many more in the future with the huge division in the church appearing over the issue of gay rights.

The 'high' church of course has been in debate about joining the Catholic church for a long time. I wonder if that will ever happen however, with, as I've learnt from Phatmass, the issue of the authority of the Pope.

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

I read that the Anglicans in support of joining the Catholic Church want a compromise with Rome but that's never going to happen. The Church won't change it's doctrines to satisfy other Churches who want to realign themselves. Already however, a few Anglican parishes in the US have converted to Catholicism and established their own Rite. The former Anglican clergy celebrate their mass. I've alwasy thought the first Church to realign themselves would be the Orthodox.

[BLAZEr]

let's be very clear . . . the Anglican convert parishes are NOT using their own RITE . . . it is called the Anglican USE Liturgy . . . you can visit one of those parishes, Our Lady of the Atonement in San Antonio, TX here http://www.atonementonline.com/

[Katholikos]

let's be very clear . . . the Anglican convert parishes are NOT using their own RITE . . . it is called the Anglican USE Liturgy . . .  you can visit one of those parishes, Our Lady of the Atonement in San Antonio, TX  here http://www.atonementonline.com/

Thank you, BLAZEr! 'tis a thing of beauty.

[cmotherofpirl]

These people call themselves Anglican Rite Cathlolics which is how I have always understood it.

http://www.users.voicenet.com/~dres/whoarewe.html

[Dave]

These people call themselves Anglican Rite Cathlolics which is how I have always understood it.

http://www.users.voicenet.com/~dres/whoarewe.html

Wait a minute, Cmom, are you sure you're not confusing Anglican-use, which is in union with Rome, with Anglo-Catholic, which isn't (although they may think it is)?

[cmotherofpirl]

nope .

Read it:

We shall continue to witness to Christ's Good News and maintain our vision of a truly Catholic Church, expressing that Catholicism in an Anglican way. This is not the same as expressing Anglicanism in a Catholic way. We are Anglican Rite Catholics, not Comprehensive Anglicans.

It has been necessary, for us to repudiate any connection with the Church of England, the Episcopal Church of the United States, and other member Churches of the Anglican Communion - embracing modern errors. We remain in the ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH, Anglican in Our Tradition of Worship, rooted in the Faith received from Jerusalem. We endeavor, by God's help to minister that same Faith and Order our Lord Jesus Christ instituted by His life, death, and resurrection; that same Faith and Order preserved and understood by the undivided Catholic Church during the first millennium, and valid for all time. Furthermore, we accept as "binding and unalterable" the Faith and Tradition of the same undivided Catholic Church - defined by the Seven Ecumenical Councils (held between 325 and 787 AD); and set out in the fundamental principles proclaimed by the 'Affirmation St. Louis' in the year of our Lord 1977. We fully and strictly adhere to these principles.

Authority in Apostolic Succession. The Holy Ministry of this Church is a male priesthood of Bishops, Priests, and Deacons, as established by our Lord Jesus Christ, and are ordained in unbroken and faithful lineage from the Apostles themselves. We extend greetings and a welcome to all Roman, Orthodox, Anglican-Catholic, and all other Catholic brethren baptized into Holy Church, seeking the authentic Catholic Faith. So also we welcome those of the Protestant Churches who, in repentance and faith are baptized and born again by water (the sacrament of regeneration) in the name of The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost. Such peoples we now invite to renew, along with us, their fellowship in the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, to partake of the fullness of faith, after confirmation if not already received, thereafter, to be fed by the Sacred Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ (The Holy Eucharist), and for fullness of life present and eternal, to partake as appropriate, of all other of the Seven Sacraments of the Church.

For the expression of worship, the people shall rely on the Anglican Books of Common Prayer, 1549 (English), 1928 (American), 1962 (Canadian), or 1963 (Indian, with its Supplement) and Altar Missal(s) authorized for use by the Holy Catholic Church (Anglican Rite).

Epiphany 2001

Edited October 11, 2003 by cmotherofpirl