Is there a Population Problem

[Oik]

[quote]The entire population of the world could fit into the state of Texas -- we could not live in the state of Texas. There is an enormous difference between the two.[/quote]

It would be a small step to bridge the gap between fitting and living...

[Socrates]

Yes the population is still growing, but fertility rates (number of children per woman) are rapidly declining through most of the world. With current trends, the actual world population will begin declining in 30-50 years.

The world will not reach the point where it cannot be fed.

By using all its farmland with the latest technology, the world could feed 12 billion people. (Much subsidized farmland in the this country, for instance, is not actually being used.)

[Paladin D]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Dec 1 2004, 09:22 PM'] Yes the population is still growing, but fertility rates (number of children per woman) are rapidly declining through most of the world.  With current trends, the actual world population will begin declining in 30-50 years.

The world will not reach the point where it cannot be fed.

By using all its farmland with the latest technology, the world could feed 12 billion people.  (Much subsidized farmland in the this country, for instance, is not actually being used.) [/quote]
In 50 years, the population in North America and Europe would be less than it is today, while Asia, South America, Africa, and [b]I think[/b] Australia would be on the rise. Got this from Britannica.

Edited December 2, 2004 by Paladin D

[Socrates]

It's impossible to actually predict population numbers, but most projections (until very recently) do not take into account the rate at which fertitliy rates have recently been declining world-wide. (with even slightly different variables, you get very different numbers.)

Again, there is a delay between when fertility levels hit below replacement levels, and when the actual population decline begins. The actual decline in population has already begun in Europe and is beginning in Japan.

[Paladin D]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Dec 1 2004, 09:54 PM'] It's impossible to actually predict population numbers, but most projections (until very recently) do not take into account the rate at which fertitliy rates have recently been declining world-wide. (with even slightly different variables, you get very different numbers.)

Again, there is a delay between when fertility levels hit below replacement levels, and when the actual population decline begins. The actual decline in population has already begun in Europe and is beginning in Japan. [/quote]
Bummer, I have a feeling this is some sort of global-trick. We make fewer babies, so when we're desperately low... it gives people an excuse to make 10 million babies.

[God Conquers]

Overpopulation is a conspiracy.

Yes I said conspiracy, and I have never uttered that word before on this site (can you utter over the internet?)

Who are the major proponents of this theory? Planned Parenthood, UNPF and others like them.

Who donates money to keep these organizations going? Corporate America

How do they initiate population control? Abortion Abortion Abortion, Contraception, Contraception Contraception

Who ultimately gains from this slaughter of innocents and corruption of cultures in 3rd world nations? Drug Companies, Condom Manufacturers, the companies that donate monney to fuel Planned Parenthood and UNPF propoganda

Corporate America has their pockets lined once again, this time with blood.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='burnsspivey' date='Dec 1 2004, 10:48 AM'] Because that's an objective source, right? [/quote]
And what do they have to gain by being wrong? I used to work there. I know every single person that works there. You show me one shred of evidence that anything on that sight is wrong and I will get it researched and, if need be, corrected. Surely you are not suggesting the sight is propagating misinformation without positing some evidence to support your claim?

[Fool4Christ]

Over population is a big fib. It's an excuse for abortion, contraception, euthanasia.

The truth is, we have never had so much food. With all the modern technology, farmers are able to produce more off less land for less labor. The problem is that we're not good about sharing with poorer countries. Farmers would and could raise more of their crops if there was a bigger demand for them. But they end up growing too much and it goes to waste. I recently heard an expert on population say that the U.S. could raise enough crops independently to feed the whole world.

The bigger problem is shrinking populations. Some countries are already having problems because their ratio of young/aged is badly lop-sided, and so there are not enough working-age people to care for the elderly.

[Don John of Austria]

[quote]As to allowing only 1 child per couple...well, they get a lot of benefits if they only have one child, but they can have more if they so choose.

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Okay I don't get my information from a site i get my information from people who lived there who I know personally, and there are a few things you must understand about this one child policy, in China you do not have the right to have one child and no more, you don't have the "right" to have any children at all... in order to have a child one must get permission to have that child from one political boss, you have to get permission to even move in with your spouse( this is seperate from getting married) here are two stories to give you an Idea: one couple both dentist( educated urban party members) had to wait 5 years before being allowed to move in with each other 5 YEARS! from the time of there marriage before there political boss would give thm permission to move intothe same 1 room appartment. Now as for the 1 child rule the following story is not something i read about it is something I absolutly KNOW occured, the women involved in this story was an American citizen teaching China but her husband was a Chinese citizen ( also a dentist) they where married with the permission of the government and lived in her appartment which she recieved for being a professor, she is Catholic he is a Christian( in the part of China he came from there was no denominations and NO Catholics there was only Christians and non-christians do to persecution) anyway unconcerned as she was an American she became pregnant ( not on purpose just liveing a Christian marriage) without permission; once her political boss found out he told he she would HAVE to have an abortion, she refused informed him she would resign and if neccessary move home without her husband until arrangments could be made with the government for him to come to America ( you can't just leave China, you have to pay the government for your education plus you have to grease some palms) anyway her party officer responded that she was an american and he could not stop her but that if she didn't have the abortion or if she left even after haveing the abortion that under his authority her husband would be executed, he then showed her evidence of his power to do exactly that. How is that for cohersion abort your baby or I'll kill your husband. She had the Abortion... I can't say I approve, I don't understand Chinese men I would have put her on a plane, taken a kitchen knife and ended that particular party members population control but I'm a Texan we arn't normal, stillthat is what happened, it isn't some faceless persons story this women is real her emotional scaring is real and that babies death was real don't tell me that you can have more than one baby in China, you can have as many as your political superiors say you can.

We shouldn't be at war in Iraq... we should be at war with China.

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='Don John of Austria' date='Dec 2 2004, 10:28 AM']
We shouldn't be at war in Iraq... we should be at war with China. [/quote]
We would lose.

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='popestpiusx' date='Dec 2 2004, 10:58 AM'] We would lose. [/quote]
yeah we sure wouldn't be able to occupy it...what have they got like a 100 million man standing army?
I'd bet we could do some damage though.


Oh and there is not a population problem, there is an allocation problem.

[popestpiusx]

They are willing to do something we are not: sacrifice a large percentage of their population. They see war as a good population control measure.

[aloha918]

[quote name='Aluigi' date='Nov 30 2004, 10:02 PM'] with modern technology we can now produce more food on less land than ever before. the "population bomb" theory always failed to account for the fact that as our population increases, so does our technology. the world can fit and sustain tons and tons and tons of new people, there is room. [/quote]
Increasing food increases population...........which then turns into a very bad cycle

[aloha918]

Many of you are talking of that there is room in the world for more people and that we make up a population problem to support abortion and contraception........this is all true when you look at america........but that is not what this is about......its about india...china....africa....these places have a lot of people...young people...meaning that once all of these young people hit child bearing years...they will have kids...in the next 50 years we are progected to be at about 9 billion (obviously give or take a few).......Eventually we will run out of room in terms of food.......another sad statistic is that the average American teen uses the same amount of food, water, everything....as one teen from India...........I feel that there is a problem....yet contraception and abortion are not the answers......they are cleaning up a problem that needs to be prevented..........

[toledo_jesus]

bah. we need to start colonizing Mars or something.