Paladin D Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Isn't it true that the Jesuits (at one time) were disbanded by the Pope, some time in history? When and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 1773 by Pope Clement XIII. It was done mostly for political reasons (the Holy Father caved in to political pressure). It was unjust. However, if the Holy Father were to do it today....oh happy day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Well I don't know if I would say it was unjust, ( excessive but not unjust) they would not obey, kind of like now, of course then they where zealous for the Truth to the point of defiance... no they are simly defiant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 There was some political discord with a few of the kings as well. They put considerable pressure on Pope Clement. To quote St. Alphonsus: Poor pope! What could he do in the circumstances in which he was placed, with all the Sovereigns conspiring to demand this Suppression? As for ourselves, we much keep silence, respect the secret judgment of God, and hold ourselves in peace". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazor Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 (edited) What exactly happened? then not now...... I can see what pius is saying now, I am in a class on Latin America right now, there were some pretty radical Jesuits down there. I think that the guys I am thinking of are the exception though, not the rule Edited November 30, 2004 by Balthazor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don John of Austria Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Oh certianly there was I was not denying that in the slightest however if the jesuits had done what they where told (essentially to shut there mouths) such a suppression would have never come to pass, there is a reasson that they have to take and extra vow of obediance to the Pope now... they didn't obey then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pio Nono Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 JMJ 11/30 - St. Andrew Yeah, when the Jesuits were suppressed in 1773, it was rather unjust - the Jesuits had never been looked upon kindly by governments, and the world (pretty much at the same time) called for their suppression. It was unjust, since they didn't do anything to merit suppression. In their defense today, I frequent the Chiesa Gesu over here in Rome (the Jesuit church), and I've only run into good Jesuits. Maybe they're hoarding all the good ones in Rome for some reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I've had excellent experience with Jesuits up to to this point.... In fact my Archbishop is a Jesuit and he is INCREDIBLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarkich Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 What's the difference between a Jesuit and a...nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader_4 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Jesuit thread...what where?! here i am guys! no fear! hahah yes the Jesuits were supressed under great pressure from the European monarchs. I have in my own life never met a bad Jesuit or even an unorthodox Jesuit who is not faithful to the Church...not to say there are not any (because there are) i just dont like it when people group the whole order as bad priests. having said that i hope we have answered your question as to why the Jesuits were supressed purely for political reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarkich Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I have never met a Jesuit, I do not think (at least not personally; there were some who came for a parish mission at my old Novus Ordo church I think). My cousin's wedding is this summer (it shall be my last Novus Ordo if I have anything to say about it), and the celebrant of the Mass is her fiance's uncle, a Jesuit. I cannot wait to get into some discussions during the reception. But, then again, my brother and I are the altar boys, and I am sure we will be having some liturgical discussions before the Mass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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