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After seeing this picture in Chanman450's signature, mulls commented:
[quote]speaking of that sig, you're telling me that's the church that Jesus started?

seriously.[/quote]

Mulls, here's your chance to explain and defend your statement.

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After seeing that sig, (and going to that Mass every Sunday) I am even more sure of the fact that Jesus founded the Catholic Church (if it's possible to be more sure than I already am).

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i *personally* just don't see that as what Jesus had in mind. just seems so over the top. God wants "spirit and truth" worship, which comes across as much more....i don't know, simple?

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[quote name='mulls' date='Nov 27 2004, 05:33 PM'] i *personally* just don't see that as what Jesus had in mind. just seems so over the top. God wants "spirit and truth" worship, which comes across as much more....i don't know, simple? [/quote]
Right. Since every Divinely prescribed liturgy has been simple? (Hint: read about the temple rituals in the OT. Then read the Church Fathers explanations of how they prefigured worship in the New Covenant.)

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homeschoolmom

Yeah, this was something that clicked for me in becoming Catholic-- how much better the OT and the NT fit together... makes better sense to me...


PS to PSPX (they are now selling peanut oil for deep frying turkeys everywhere here... the South is invading the North.... :( )

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In the denomination that I grew up in, I never learned anything about the Catholic Church. They never taught me anything about it, and they never taught me any anti-Catholicism (note, this is a pentecostal denomination, so this is VERY weird). When I started getting interested in Catholicism, I found out that Christianity is supposed to be in it's essence very Jewish, since most of the early Christians were Jews. Had the Greeks not given them the name "Christian", they would probably still be called Jews or "Neojews", or something along the lines 'til this day. To insinuate that protestantism [i]is[/i] the church that Christ had in mind is very off the mark. Just look at the church for what it is. Buy some Catholic literature, look at the history of the liturature, the history of the church leaders, the doctrines and definitions. It's the only thing that really makes sense.

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[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Nov 27 2004, 07:39 PM']  the South is invading the North.... :( ) [/quote]
We're just returning the favor.

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[quote name='mulls' date='Nov 27 2004, 05:33 PM']i *personally* just don't see that as what Jesus had in mind. just seems so over the top. God wants "spirit and truth" worship, which comes across as much more....i don't know, simple?[/quote]
Maybe I don't understand your usage of the term "simple." They're all kneeling, worshipping Our Lord, Jesus Christ, present in the Eucharist. That's pretty simple.

I'm trying to look at the picture with non-Catholic eyes (it's a stretch!). Potential hot-spots:

1) The use of incense
2) The Chalice
3) The priest's garments

Am I getting close? Sorry if I'm a little slow. Please be patient.

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