Guest Aluigi Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 time doesn't exist the same way it does here. you're in eternity. it's incomprehensible. but all those things that give you joy in this life, that joy will be magnified a million times in the Beatific Vision. if while in heaven you played basketball, you'd be disappointed, it'd be a lot less fun that the supernatural joys of heaven it's beyond your wildest imaginations. you're going to be able to know everything that goes on in the entire universe, and that'll just be like your basic knowledge (like how we know 1+1=2, but there's so much more we know).... in this finite life we cannot begin to comprehend the amazing joys of heaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pio Nono Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 JMJ 12/2 - First Thursday of Advent Due to the recent suspension of the man to whom I was presenting my arguments, I completely withdraw my statements from and participation in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 [quote name='JeffCR07' date='Dec 2 2004, 12:34 AM'] Now, I would also like to make a further point: The end goal of marriage is to icon the Most Holy Trinity, and, as we have seen, this is done through the marriage act. [/quote] Can someone explain to me how sex is like the Trinity ? I dont get it ,maybe im dumb . God Bless Ricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Of course, I'd be happy to, and don't worry, you arnt "dumb." We understand the Trinity to be a perfect Communion of Love. The Father infinitely loves the Son, the Son infinitely returns the love to the Father, and that Infinite Love between them [i]is[/i] the Holy Ghost. Marriage is an icon of this, because in the marriage act (sex), the husband unconditionally loves the wife, the wife unconditionally returns the love to the husband, and the love between them begets a third person, namely, a child. So, sex, properly understood, images the internal communion of the Most Holy Trinity. - Your Brother In Christ, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Are you saying that the Holy Spirit was begat by the other two Persons ? Huh ? God Bless, Ricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pio Nono Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 JMJ 12/6 - St. Nicholas [quote]Are you saying that the Holy Spirit was begat by the other two Persons ? Huh ?[/quote] "We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, [b][i]Who proceeds from the Father and the Son[/b][/i]..." "Proceeds" here is a translation of the Latin [i]procedit[/i], which has the connotation of being "sent forth". This is proper to the Holy Spirit, so it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 The Father is still the primary cause of the Son and the Spirit, but the Spirit is, as Pio Nono pointed out, proceed from both the Father and the Son. Now, two points. First: just because the Father is the primary cause of the Son and Spirit does not mean that He pre-dates them, all three are consubstantial and co-eternal. Second: The analogous relationship between child and spirit is that, like the Spirit, the child, in a sense, [i]is[/i] love: the embodiment of the love between husband and wife. - Your Brother In Christ, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmeister2 Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 We can't have sex in Heaven, because we will not have bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vianney Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 thats not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmeister2 Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 (edited) We will have bodies? I thought Heaven was only a spiritual place, not physical? Edited December 9, 2004 by drewmeister2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vianney Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I should clarify, after Christ's second coming all in heaven will have glorified bodies. No heaven is not purely spiritual we will have bodies. The saints in heaven now are not reunited with their bodies yet. I believe only Christ and Mary are. Correct me if I am wrong Pio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pio Nono Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 JMJ 12/9 - St. Juan Diego You're good to go, vianney (cf. Summa Theologia, Ia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I think we must also account for Elijah, who was taken to heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Also, I think we must be very careful when referring to the Trinity as an icon of the Family. The distinction between the persons of the Trinity is relational. So the analogy is very very very limited. We cannot think of the Trinity as a family in so far as the desinction of the family members is of their very nature.They are separate persons in a very different way than the Three Persons of the Trinity, who all share a single nature, namely, the Divine Nature: they are all substantially one and the same God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Short hijack: Pio and vianney, did you both get my responses to your messages? End Hijack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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